CHILD WARNING EFFORTPOST the effect of radiation on the human body

What is radiation?

Firstly, radiation is an energy that comes from a source and travels through the space at the light of speed, This energy has an electric field and a magnetic field associated with it, and has wave-like properties. You could also call radiation “electromagnetic waves”.

radiation can be released from nuclear bombs since they contain some of the most radioactive elements which are: unranium U-235, polonium, radium, beryllium and a small percentage of phosphorus can be radioactive (like phosphorus-32)

Uranium (U):

Uranium is one of the most important radioactive material, Uranium is found in small amounts in most rocks, and even in seawater but the average uranium contains (by weight) 99.28% U-238 which is not that reactive. it also contains about 0.72% U-235 which is extremely radioactive. since U-235 contains extremely high levels of radiation and it's commonly used in nuclear bombs etc. It was found originally by the German chemist Martin Klaproth in 1789.


Symptoms can be loss of white blood cells which increases the risk of infection, seizures sometimes and many types of cancer.

Uranium poisoning (getting exposed to its radiation) increases the risk of thyroid cancer since the thyroid gland absorbs the radioactive iodine and it also causes Inflammation, scarring, and possible cancer risk in the lungs. It also causes internal bleeding in the GI tract.

Uranium poisoning can also show some signs in the skin like these:

These are all radiation symptoms/signs and there are a LOT of victims. some of them are infants, if the mother is radiated the radiation can be transmitted to the unborn in the womb.

But there's a low chance that the mother might be able to give birth to the child and in that case the child will be abnormal and born with biologically different characteristics:

Most of these babies won't live a month due to the radiation in their bodies.

children from the Chernobyl incident:

Polonium (Po):

Polonium is one of the radioactive elements that's used in nuclear bombs which is very rare and it's found in uranium ores. it was discovered by the polish chemist Marie Sklodowska Curie in 1898. The most dangerous polonium is polonium-210


Polonium can cause radiation exposure (irradiation) of internal organs, which can result in serious medical symptoms or death and it also can cause nausea, vomiting, anorexia, lymphopenia, and sometimes diarrhea. For more info:

the victims: luckily there are barely any victims of polonium since how rare it is. but there is one fatality in Russia, of a man who had accidentally inhaled polonium-210 in an industrial process and On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalized after poisoning with polonium-210; he died from the poisoning on 23 November

A picture of litvineko after he was poisoned in the hospital


Phosphorus (P):

Although phosphorus is not radioactive but Phosphate rock contains small amounts of naturally-occurring radionuclides, mostly uranium and radium, but Phosphorus-32 is a radioactive isotope of phosphorus which in laboratories it's used to label DNA and proteins. Phosphorus was discovered by Hennig Brandt in Hamburg in Germany in 1669 When he evaporated urine and heated the residue until it was red hot. Glowing phosphorus vapour came off and he condensed it under water.

White Phosphorus is used in military purposes in grenades and artillery shells to produce illumination, to generate a smokescreen and as an incendiary

White phosphorus bombs:

Its major industrial uses are in the production of phosphoric acid, phosphates and other compounds.

White phosphorus victims:

Although phosphorus are banned worldwide but there are A LOT of times when governments used phosphorus bombs and one of the recent ones was in 2009 when Israel was accused of using phosphorus against Palestine, Gaza.

  • Weapons: Mortar and artillery shells, grenades

  • Geneva Treaty of 1980: Prohibited for attacking civilians; no ban on use as smoke screen or for illumination.

  • Looks: Colorless to yellow transluscent wax-like substance.

  • When exposed to oxygen: It bursts into yellow flame, producing thick white smoke.

  • Phosphorus burns: They are mostly second- or third-degree; particles do not stop burning after contact with skin.

Before Israel's reported use of the weapon in Lebanon and Gaza. Russian and Bashar Al Assad's forces used it on Syrian civilians. Ex-Syrian rebel Rabih Sarraf was defending his hometown of Maarat Al Numan when Russian planes were bombing the area with white phosphorus around 8 years ago (2016)

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy told a NATO summit on Thursday that Russia had used white phosphorus against civilians in his country.

Zelenskyy said: "This morning, phosphorus bombs were used. Russian phosphorus bombs. Adults and children were killed"

The United States bombardment of Fallujah began in April 2003, one month after the beginning of the invasion of Iraq. In April 2003 United States forces fired on a group of demonstrators who were protesting against the US presence. US forces alleged they were fired at first, but Human Rights Watch, who visited the site of the protests, concluded that physical evidence did not corroborate US allegations and confirmed the residents' accusations that the US forces fired indiscriminately at the crowd with no provocation. 17 people were killed and 70 were wounded


Within the al-Aqsa Flood operation

With the help of Allah. we were able to detonate a number of explosive devices on the occupation vehicles and soldiers during their storming of the Jabriyat neighborhood and the outskirts of the Jenin camp at dawn today, which led to enemy soldiers being killed and wounded

After the occupation announced a small part of its losses and did not acknowledge the full truth, we in Saraya al-Quds - Jenin Battalion assure you that the enemy's losses are more than that and we show you these scenes

0:04 - Occupation forces gathered in the al-Jabriyat neighborhood

0:38 - Corpses of the occupation soldiers

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

“You did not kill them, but Allah killed them. And you did not throw when you threw, but Allah threw.”

Praise be to Allah, the comforter of Islam and the Muslims, the one who weakens the plots of the unbelievers, and the humiliator of polytheism and polytheists. Praise be to Allah, who has enabled us and honored us to walk and remain on the path of truth and honesty and with the same thorn, succeeding our leaders and greats who preceded us in bearing witness to the satisfaction of Allah Ta'ala. As for what follows:

O sons of our great Palestinian people, and our family and loved ones in Jenin and its steadfast camp, we look forward to another day of Allah's victory and the glory of jihad and resistance, today, January 7, 2024, and within the Battle of al-Aqsa Flood.

Our mujahideen were able to trap the occupation vehicles penetrating into the Jenin camp with a fiery ambush. Several successive bombs were detonated, followed by direct and intense targeting with fire bombs, which led to the occupation soldiers being killed and wounded.

The invading force requested additional reinforcements and called for help from military and reconnaissance aircraft to be able to evacuate its wounded and dead.

Which prompted them, as usual, to pour the fires of their hatred and madness on our people and civilians, and they targeted a great group of the struggling rebel family, with 6 of them rising as martyrs on the road to Jerusalem and liberation.

We had warned this defeated occupier that the blood of our martyred leaders would not be in vain and would only increase our resolve and determination to continue on the path, and that you had made a mistake in studying the Jenin Battalion, and because we always bet on your stupidity, we were able to lure you after we published the video of the last maneuver, and with God's help and grace, we succeeded in Trapping you into a fiery ambush, we assure you that what awaits you is worse and worse.

Finally, we challenge this defeated and terrified occupier to come out before nine o'clock in the evening and announce his real losses before we announce them, which are documented by us with scenes that offend your faces and weaken your plot, and will not heal and warm the hearts of our people and the free people of our nation.

Our jihad continues and our weapons are deployed in all arenas

Saraya al-Quds - Jenin Battalion, the military wing of the Islamic Jihad movement in Palestine

Sunday 7/1/2024 AD

25 Jumada al-Akhirah 1445 AH

The six Shuhada who were murdered by Zionist forces. 4 of them were brothers. Their names are as follows:

1. Hazza Najeh Hassan Darwish, 27 years old

2. Rami Najeh Hassan Darwish, 22 years old

3. Ahmed Najeh Hassan Darwish, 24 years old

4. Alaa Najeh Hassan Darwish, 29 years old

5. May God grant Nabil Suleiman, 18 years old

6. Muhammad Yasser Musa Asous, 25 years old

May their memory and courage be a blessing.

Conflict: 2023-2024 Israel-Gaza War

Location: Jabriyat neighborhood, Jenin, The West Bank, Palestine

Casualties: At least one killed and four wounded as admitted by Zionist media, Saraya al-Quds state an unspecified amount more were killed

Sgt. Shai Germay 19, from Carmiel, who was admitted dead by the Zionist occupation in this attack

Perpetrator: Jenin Battalion of Saraya al-Quds (Military wing of Palestinian Islamic Jihad)


EFFORTPOST This is a cancer post! :marseyrave:

Cancer. From the beginning of medical science, upon inspection of fresh corpses back to ancient greece, a mass was seldom discovered upon a recently passed away sick individual.

This mass sought no gender or age. It was baptized cancer, in reference to the crab like form of the growth and its veiny attachment in surrounding tissues.

Breast cancer was one of the most studied form since its easily apparent on a patient without dissection of cadavers required. Today we will learn about this affliction together.

Different stages

Breast cancer is defined in 4 concrete stages. The image above illustrates these different stages.

stage 1

A little cancer. Confined to breast area, presence of hard nodules within the breast, possible lymph nodes affliction. Easily treatable, 100% survival rate in non prehistoric countries.

stage 2

A bit of cancer. Still confined to breast area, hard nodules within breast and lymph nodes, skin thickening and discoloration. Still an early stage, very high survival rate.

stage 3

Lots of cancer. Why are you waiting? Something is very wrong and getting out of hands…

The tissues in the breast area may present wounds or ulcers that leaks fluids, lymph nodes are usually affected. The skin is changing progressively into what is called "peau d'orange" (oranges skin). Survival rate is dropping fast and significantly.

Most of the time, radiation treatment will be used alongside other kind of treatments (chemo, surgery, hormonal and immunotherapy). Radiation treatment may cause apparition of different tumors in the following years, there's no easy winning in this stage, the fighting will be long and exhausting. It's time to act or face dire consequences.

stage 4

Hey suzan, you waited too long; now you're fucked. Too late to have regrets now; enjoy palliative care while it last.

The cancer has now spread to other organs and metastasized. Multiple sites present necrotic wounds matched witg sever pain. Treatments will be provided to extend life; but these will take a severe toll on quality of life.

Survival rate is approaching zero very quickly, patients will often be transferred to palliative care unit.

In conclusion, if you don't live in prehistory, if you notice any changes in your breast with other symptoms (loss of weight, change in skin appearance, apparition of lumps with pain, etc), act now and go seek medical advice from professional.

Also, beware of strangers offering free mammograms with their hands, mouth or else. Chances are, these are creeps praying on your fears.

I am not a healthcare professional, this post is for educational purpose and should not be used as a diagnostic tool. After all, i'm just a dude who enjoy gore and medical science.

Be gentle it's my first real post.

Here's part two:


Columbine High School resides in Littelton, Colorado. The school was founded in 1973. It was named after the surrounding community of Columbine, which in turn was named after the state flower of Colorado: the columbine. Columbine was the site of one of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S History (12 killed) until it was surpassed by the Virginia Tech shooting on April 16, 2007 where 33 would be killed.


The Columbine Shooting happened on April 20. 1999 lasting from 11:19am-12:08pm. Including the perpetrators, 15 people would lose their lives and 24 would be injured. The motive for this attack is described to be "Inconclusive."


Eric Harris:

Eric Harris was born on April 9, 1981 in Wichita, Kansas. He was part of a military family so he was moved around alot. They moved from New York to Littleton, Colorado in July 1993 once his father had retired from the U.S Air Force.

In an English paper in 1997 he wrote how difficult it was to move from New York to Colorado. "It was the hardest moving from Plattsburgh. I have the most memories from there", Harris continued. "When I left (his friends) I felt alone, lost and even agitated that I had spent so much time with them and now I have to go because of something I can't stop." Harris blamed his dad for moving around having him to "start at the bottom of the ladder." Harris entered Columbine in 1995 as a Freshman. It was said he had many friends. Some described Harris as Charismatic and other said nice and likeable. In his Freshman year he met Tiffany Typher in German class. She recounted how Harris quickly wooed her and they ended up going to Homecoming together .

After the event she wanted nothing to do with him for reasons unknown. She refused to socialize with him which is then when he faked his suicide. He was sprawled out on the ground with fake blood. When she saw she screamed and called for help at which point Harris and friends started laughing.

By his Junior year he was known to be quick to anger and threatened people with bombs. Harris often bragged about his ability to deceive people and has also written violent fantasies about killing people he doesn't like.


Dylan Klebold:

Dylan Klebold was born Sept 11, 1981 in Lakewood, Colorado. On the day after the shooting, Klebold's mother remembered that shortly after Klebold's birth, she described what felt like a shadow cast over her, warning her that this child would bring her great sorrow.

Klebold attended Normandy Elementary School for first and second grade and then transferred to Governor's Ranch Elementary School where he was part of the Challenging High Intellectual Potential Students program for gifted children. According to report's. Klebold was an exceptionally bright child, although he appeared somewhat sheltered in Elementary School.

When he transitioned to Ken Caryl Middle School, he found it difficult. Fellow classmates recalled Klebold being painfully shy and quiet, often to an uncomfortable degree. He was fidgety whenever someone new talked to him rarely opening up to people. His parent's were unconcerned with this behavior as they assumed it was just regular behavior among young adolescents.

During his earlier school years he played Baseball, Soccer and T-ball. He was also in Cub Scouts where he would met Brooks Brown. Klebold and Brown rode the same bus as Harris which is how Klebold and Harris quickly became best friends. They also both worked together as cooks at Blackjack Pizza.

In the last year of his life he changed. People noted him being short-tempered and prone to sudden outbursts of rage.



Much information is unknown other then their interactions in the Basement Tapes.

Thye first met in 7th grade and over time they became increasingly close. Hanging out going bowling, carpooling and playing the video game Doom.

By Junior year they were described as inseparable. It was also said that they always sat alone together during lunch and kept to themselves.



On the night of January 30, 1998, Harris and Klebold broke into a locked van to steal computers and other electronic equipment. A short while after a Jefferson County sheriff's officer drove upon the two boys parked further down road at another park entrance and since the park area was closed by that time of night, the arresting deputy decided to further inspect them.

They were later charged with mischief, breaking and entering, trespassing, and theft.

They both left good impressions on juvenile officers, who offered to expunge their criminal records if they agreed to attend a diversionary program which included community service and psychiatric treatment. Harris was required to attend anger management classes where, again, he made a favorable impression.

The boys' probation officer discharged them from the program a few months ahead of schedule for good behavior. Regarding Harris, it was remarked that he was "a very bright individual who is likely to succeed in life", while Klebold was said to be intelligent, but "needs to understand that hard work is part of fulfilling a dream."

Several months later on April 30, Harris handed over the first version of a letter of apology he wrote to the owner of the van, which he completed the next month.

In the letter, Harris expressed regret about his actions; however, in one of his journal entries dated April 12, he wrote: "Isn't america supposed to be the land of the free? how come, If im free, I cant deprive some fucking dumbshit from his possessions If he leaves them sitting in the front seat of his fucking van in plain sight in the middle of fucking nowhere on a fri-fucking-day night? Natural selection. Fucker should be shot.



Early stories following the massacre charged that school administrators and teachers at Columbine had long condoned bullying by jocks and this explained the motive. According to early accounts of the shooting, they were very unpopular students and targets of bullying. A rumor eventually started that Harris and Klebold were gay and romantically involved, due to the time the pair spent together. It is unknown if they were aware of this rumor. Harris and Klebold were regularly called "Cute twinks" Dylan when talking to his father about the jocks had stated, "They sure give Eric hell." but he also said that the jocks tended to leave him [Dylan] alone.

Eric had a chest deformity known as Pectus Excavatum. This made him reluctant to take his shirt off during Gym Class and other students would make fun of him for it. Nathan Vanderau, a friend of Klebold, and Alisa Owen, who knew Harris, noted they were picked on. Vanderau recalled that a "cup of fecal matter" was thrown at them.

One day it was alleged that they were both confronted by student's who sprayed them with Ketchup while referring to them as "Cute twinks" and "Queers." Klebold told his mother that it was the worst day of his life. According to Brown, "That happened while teachers watched. They couldn't fight back. They wore the ketchup all day and went home covered with it."

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Dave Cullen, an American journalist and non-fiction writer and Author of Columbine published in 2009, as well as psychologists dispute the theory of "revenge for bullying" as a motivation. Cullen claimed they were NOT victims of bullying. He noted Harris was more often the perpetrator than victim of bullying.

An entry is Eric's journal he stated that even if he were complimented and respected more by his peers, the attack would've still, in all likelihood, occurred. In another entry he even said to not blame the administration of the school for the attack for they were doing a great job running the school. many other researchers have also argued against the bullying hypothesis

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Rejection was also highlighted as a cause. Social cliques within high schools such as the Trench Coat Mafia

were widely discussed. One perception formed was that Harris and Klebold were both outcasts who had been isolated from their classmates, prompting feelings of helplessness, insecurity, and depression, as well as a strong need for power and attention.

This concept too has been questioned, as both Harris and Klebold had a close circle of friends and a wider informal social group. Other close friends of the pair such as Chad Laughlin and Nathan Dykeman state the duo were not outcasts.

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FBI has concluded that they both had mental illness. Eric was a clinical psychopath and Dylan had depression.

Dwayne Fuselier, the supervisor in charge of the Columbine investigation, would later remark: "I believe Eric went to the school to kill and didn't care if he died, while Dylan wanted to die and didn't care if others died as well."

In April 1998, a year prior to the attack, as part of his diversion program, Harris wrote a letter of apology to the owner of the van he and Klebold broke into earlier that year. Around the same time, he derided the owner of the van in his journal, stating that he believed he had the right to steal something if he wanted to.

The theme in Klebold's journals is his wish for suicide and private despair at his lack of success with women, which he refers to as an "infinite sadness". Klebold had repeatedly documented his desires to kill himself, and his final remark in the Basement Tapes, shortly before the attack, is a resigned statement made as he glances away from the camera: "Just know I'm going to a better place. I didn't like life too much."

This theory has been met with criticism. Critics cite the fact that Klebold, not Harris, was the first to mention a killing spree in his journal. They also cite evidence that Harris was depressed as well, such as his prescription for antidepressants. Opponents of contemporary psychiatry like Peter Breggin claim that the psychiatric medications prescribed to Harris may have exacerbated his aggressiveness. Harris had complained of depression, anger, and suicidal thoughts, for which he was prescribed antidepressants. Toxicology reports confirmed that Harris had Luvox in his bloodstream at the time of the shootings, whereas Klebold had no medications in his system. Harris continued his scheduled meetings with his psychologist until a few months before the massacre.



Both of these are very long and alot of information. So, I have gone looking for the journals and Basement Tapes for you.

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In this webpage above ↑ you will find, both, Eric's and Dylans journal's.

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In this YouTube video above ↑ you will find all known tapes from Dylan and Eric. The video is 1 hour and 36 minutes long.

If you would rather read the tapes you can also click this link below ↓



Harris had a Hi-Point 995 Carbine with thirteen 10-round magazines and a Savage-Springfield 67H pump-action shotgun.

Klebold used a 9mm Intratec TEC-9 semi-automatic handgun with one 52-, one 32-, and one 28-round magazine and a Stevens 311D double-barreled shotgun.

Harris's shotgun was sawed-off to around 26 inches (0.66 m) and Klebold shortened his shotgun's length to 23 inches (0.58 m), a felony under the National Firearms Act.

Through Philip Duran, one of their coworkers, Klebold bought a TEC-9 handgun from Mark Manes for $500 at another gun show on January 23.

After the massacre, Manes and Duran were both prosecuted. Each was charged with supplying a handgun to a minor and possession of a sawed-off shotgun. Manes and Duran were sentenced to a total of six years and four-and-a-half years, respectively, in prison.

Including firearms there were also explosives. Harris and Klebold constructed a total of 99 bombs.

These included pipe bombs, carbon-dioxide cartridges filled with gunpowder (called "crickets"), Molotov cocktails, and propane tanks converted to bombs. The propane bombs were used in the cafeteria, the shooters' cars, and in another location intended as a diversion.

Harris also experimented with napalm, and envisioned a kind of backpack and flamethrower. They both attempted to get another friend and coworker, Chris Morris, who was a part of the Trench Coat Mafia, to keep the napalm at his house, but he refused. Harris also tried to recruit him to be a third shooter but played it off as a joke when rebuked.

Harris and Klebold were both equipped with knives, but investigators do not believe they ever utilized them during the massacre. Harris had a boot knife on his belt and a "Khyber-pass" machete bowie knife taped to the back of his ankle. Both had an "R", referencing Harris's alias "REB", etched into the handle, and the machete had a swastika on the sheath. Klebold had a "Cobra" knife mounted to his belt on the left side as well as a switchblade in his right pocket.



The shooting started at 11:19am

At 11:22am Police response and West entrance shoot out happens

11:29 -11:36am Library Massacre begins

12:08pm Eric and Dylan would commit Suicide.

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On Tuesday morning, April 20, 1999, Harris and Klebold placed two duffel bags in the cafeteria. Each bag contained propane bombs, set to detonate during the "A" lunch shift, which began at 11:15 a.m.

No one recalls seeing them do this and was thought to be believed that there was a tape change around this time.

But in the video below ↓ from Reddit you can see where they were starting to place the bombs.

Two backpacks filled with pipe bombs, aerosol canisters, and small propane bombs were also placed in a field about 3 miles (4.8 km) south of CHS, and 2 mi (3.2 km) south of the fire station. The bombs were intended as a diversion to draw firefighters and emergency personnel away from the school. Only the pipe bombs and one of the aerosol canisters detonated, causing a small fire, which was quickly extinguished by the fire department.

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At 11:19 a.m., 17-year-old Rachel Scott

and her friend Richard Castaldo were having lunch and sitting on the grass next to the west entrance of the school. Klebold threw a pipe bomb towards the parking lot; the bomb only partially detonated, causing it to give off smoke. Castaldo thought it was no more than a crude senior prank. Likewise, several students during the incident first thought that they were watching a prank.

A witness reported hearing "Go! Go!" before Klebold and Harris pulled their guns from beneath their trench coats and began shooting.

The two allegedly returned to where Rachel Scott and Richard Castaldo lay on the ground injured. Scott was killed instantly when she was hit four times with rounds fired from Harris's carbine; one shot was to the left temple.

Castaldo was shot eight times in the chest, arm, and abdomen by both Harris and Klebold; he fell unconscious to the ground and was left paralyzed below the chest.

Klebold's TEC-9 jammed forcing him to temporarily stop. Meanwhile, Harris took off his trenchcoat and aimed his carbine down the west staircase in the direction of three students: Daniel Rohrbough, Sean Graves, and Lance Kirklin. Thinking it was just a paintball gun they weren't quick to run away.

Harris fired ten times, killing Rohrbough and injuring Graves and Kirklin.

During this time was when Dave Sanders heard the gun fire from the cafeteria and began warning student's who then started fleeing to safety.

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Harris turned west and fired seven shots in the direction of five students sitting on the grassy hillside adjacent to the steps and opposite the west entrance of the school. Michael Johnson was hit in the face, leg, and arm but ran and escaped; Mark Taylor was shot in the chest, arms, and leg and fell to the ground, where he faked death; the other three escaped uninjured.

Klebold walked down the steps toward the cafeteria. He first shot once at the body of Dan Rohrbough with his shotgun, and then came up to Lance Kirklin, who was already wounded and lying on the ground, weakly calling for help. Klebold said, "Sure. I'll help you," then shot Kirklin in the jaw with his shotgun. Although near-fatally injured, Kirklin would survive.

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Graves—paralyzed beneath the waist—had crawled into the doorway of the cafeteria's west entrance and collapsed. He rubbed his blood on his face and played dead. After shooting Kirklin, Klebold walked towards the cafeteria door. He then stepped over the injured Graves to enter the cafeteria. Graves remembers Klebold saying, "Sorry, dude."

Klebold only briefly entered the cafeteria and did not shoot at the several people still inside. Officials speculated that Klebold went to check on the propane bombs. Harris was still on top of the stairs shooting, and severely wounded and partially paralyzed 17-year-old Anne-Marie Hochhalter as she tried to flee.

Klebold came out of the cafeteria and went back up the stairs to join Harris. They each shot once at students standing close to a soccer field but did not hit anyone. They walked toward the west entrance, throwing pipe bombs in several directions, including onto the roof; only a few of these pipe bombs detonated. Witnesses heard one of them say, "This is what we always wanted to do. This is awesome!"

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Meanwhile, art teacher Patti Nielson was inside the school; she had noticed the commotion and walked toward the west entrance with student Brian Anderson. Nielson had intended to walk outside to tell the two students, "Knock it off", thinking they were either filming a video or pulling a student prank.

As Anderson opened the first set of double doors, the gunmen shot out the windows, injuring him with flying glass; Nielson was hit in the shoulder with shrapnel.

Anderson and Nielson ran back down the hall into the library, and Nielson alerted the students inside to the danger, telling them to get under desks and keep silent. She dialed 9-1-1 and hid under the library's administrative counter. Anderson fell to the floor, bleeding from his injuries, then hid inside the magazine room adjacent to the library.

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11:22 a.m.: Police response and West Entrance shootouts.

A custodian called Deputy Neil Gardner, the assigned resource officer to Columbine, on the school radio, requesting assistance in the senior parking lot.

The only paved route took him around the school to the east and south on Pierce Street, where at 11:23 a.m., he heard on his police radio that a female was down, and assumed she had been struck by a car. While exiting his patrol car in the senior lot at 11:24, he heard another call on the school radio, "Neil, there's a shooter in the school.

Harris, at the west entrance, immediately turned and fired ten shots from his carbine at Gardner, who was 60 yards (55 m) away. As Harris reloaded his carbine, Gardner leaned over the top of his car and fired four rounds at Harris from his service pistol.

Harris ducked back behind the building, and Gardner momentarily believed that he had hit him. Harris then reemerged and fired at least four more rounds at Gardner (which missed and struck two parked cars), before retreating into the building. No one was hit during the exchange of gunfire.

By this point, Harris had shot 47 times, and Klebold 5.

The pair then shot out the windows to the east entrance of the school. After proceeding through the hall several times and shooting toward—and missing—any students they saw, they went toward the west entrance and turned into the library hallway.

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Inside the school cafeteria, Dave Sanders and two custodians initially told students to get under the tables, then successfully evacuated students up the staircase leading to the second floor of the school. The stairs were located around the corner from the library hallway in the main south hallway. Sanders then tried to secure as much of the school as he could.

Sanders and another student were at the end of the hallway, where he gestured for students in the library to stay, before encountering Harris and Klebold, who were approaching from the corner of the north hallway. Sanders and the student turned and ran in the opposite direction. Harris and Klebold shot at them both, with Harris hitting Sanders twice in the back and neck. The latter ran into a science classroom and warned everyone to hide. Klebold walked over towards Sanders, who had collapsed, and tossed a pipe bomb, then returned to Harris up the library hallway.

Sanders struggled toward the science area, and teacher Rich Long took him into a classroom where 30 students were located. Due to his knowledge of first aid, student Aaron Hancey was brought to the classroom from another by teacher Kent Friesen despite the unfolding commotion. With the assistance of fellow student and teacher, Hancey administered first aid to Sanders for three hours, attempting to stem the blood loss using shirts from students in the room, and showing him pictures from his wallet to keep him talking

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As the shooting unfolded, pipe bombs were tossed in the hallways and down into the cafeteria. Patti Nielson in the library called 9-1-1, telling her story and urging students in the library to take cover beneath desks. According to transcripts, her call was received by a 9–1–1 operator at 11:25:18 a.m.

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11:29–11:36 a.m.: Library massacre

At 11:29am Eric and Dylan would enter the Library where most of the killing's would be taking place.

Harris yelled at everyone to "GET UP!" loud enough to be heard on the 911 call. When no one complied, Harris yelled, "Fine! I'll start shooting anyway!"

The gunmen walked into the library, towards the two rows of computers. Sitting at the north row was disabled student Kyle Velasquez. Klebold fired his shotgun, fatally hitting him in the head and back.

Throughout the massacre in the library, they ordered everybody to get up, said how long they had been waiting for this, and seemed to be enjoying themselves, shouting things like "Woo!" after shooting. While ordering the jocks to stand up, one of the two said, "Anybody with a white hat or a sports emblem on it is dead." Wearing a white baseball cap at Columbine was a tradition among sports team members. Nobody stood up, and several students tried to hide their white hats.

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Klebold removed his trench coat. He then fired his shotgun at a nearby table, injuring three students: Patrick Ireland, Daniel Steepleton, and Makai Hall.

Harris walked toward the lower row of computer desks with his shotgun and fired a single shot under the first desk while down on one knee. He hit 14-year-old Steven Curnow with a mortal wound to the neck.

He then moved to the adjacent computer desk, injuring 17-year-old Kacey Ruegsegger with a shot which passed completely through her right shoulder, also grazing her neck and severing a major artery. When she started gasping in pain, Harris said, "Quit your bitching."

Harris then walked to a table south of the lower computer table, with two students underneath: Cassie Bernall and Emily Wyant. Harris slapped the surface of the table twice as he knelt, and said "Peek-a-boo" before shooting Bernall once in the head with the shotgun, killing her.

After fatally shooting Bernall, Harris turned toward the next table, where Bree Pasquale sat next to the table rather than under it. Harris's nose was bleeding; witnesses later reported that he had blood around his mouth. Harris asked Pasquale if she wanted to die, and she responded with a plea for her life. Harris laughed and responded "Everyone's gonna die." When Klebold said "shoot her," Harris responded "No, we're gonna blow up the school anyway."

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Klebold noticed Ireland trying to provide aid to Hall, who had suffered a wound to his knee. As Ireland tried to help Hall, his head rose above the table. Klebold shot him a second time, hitting him twice in the head and once in the foot. Ireland was knocked unconscious but survived.

Klebold then walked toward another table, where he discovered 18-year-old Isaiah Shoels, 16-year-old Matthew Kechter, and 16-year-old Craig Scott (Rachel's younger brother), hiding underneath. Klebold called out to Harris that he found a "BIPOC" and tried to pull Shoels out from under the table.

Harris left Pasquale and joined him. According to witnesses, they taunted Shoels for a few seconds, making derogatory racial comments. The gunmen both fired under the table; Harris shot Shoels once in the chest, killing him, and Klebold shot and killed Kechter. Though Shoels was not shot in the head, Klebold said: "I didn't know black brains could fly that far."

Meanwhile, Scott was uninjured, lying in the blood of his friends, feigning death.

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Klebold walked to the east area of the library. Harris walked from the bookcase, past the central area to meet Klebold. The latter shot at a display case next to the door, then turned and shot toward the closest table, hitting and injuring 17-year-old Mark Kintgen in the head and shoulder.

He then turned toward the table to his left and fired, injuring 18-year-olds Lisa Kreutz, Lauren Townsend, and Valeen Schnurr with the same shotgun blast. Klebold then moved toward the same table and fired several shots with the TEC-9, killing Townsend.

At this point, the seriously injured Valeen Schnurr began screaming, "Oh, my God! Oh, my God!" In response, Klebold asked Schnurr if she believed in the existence of God; when Schnurr replied she did, Klebold asked "Why?" and commented "God is gay." Klebold reloaded but walked away from the table

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Harris approached another table where two girls were hiding. He bent down to look at them and dismissed them as "pathetic". Harris then moved to another table where he fired twice, injuring 16-year-olds Nicole Nowlen and John Tomlin. Tomlin moved out from under the table. Klebold shot him repeatedly, killing him.

Harris then walked back over to the other side of the table where Townsend lay dead. Behind the table, a 16-year-old girl named Kelly Fleming had, like Bree Pasquale, sat next to the table rather than beneath it due to a lack of space. Harris shot Fleming with his shotgun, hitting her in the back and killing her.

He shot at the table behind Fleming, hitting Townsend, who was already dead; Kreutz again; and wounding 18-year-old Jeanna Park.

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Harris then pointed his carbine under a table, but the student he was aiming at moved out of the way. Harris turned his gun back on the student and told him to identify himself.

It was John Savage, an acquaintance of Klebold's. He asked Klebold what they were doing, to which he shrugged and answered, "Oh, just killing people." Savage asked if they were going to kill him. However, because of the background noise, Klebold said, "What?" Savage asked again whether they were going to kill him. Klebold said no, and told him to run. Savage fled, escaping through the library's main entrance and through the cafeteria.

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After Savage left, Harris turned and fired his carbine at the table directly north of where he had been, hitting the ear and hand of 15-year-old Daniel Mauser. Mauser retaliated by either shoving a chair at Harris or grabbing at his leg; Harris fired again and hit Mauser in the center of the face at close range, killing him.

Harris then moved south and fired three shots under another table, critically injuring two 17-year-olds, Jennifer Doyle and Austin Eubanks. Klebold then shot once, fatally wounding 17-year-old Corey DePooter, at 11:35.

There were no further victims. They had killed 10 people in the library and wounded 12.


12:08pm: Suicides

After leaving the library, Harris and Klebold entered the science area, where they caused a fire in an empty storage closet. It was extinguished by a teacher who had hidden in an adjacent room.

The gunmen then proceeded toward the south hallway, where they shot into an empty science room. At 11:44 a.m., they were captured on the school security cameras as they re-entered the cafeteria. The recording shows Harris crouching against the rail on the staircase and firing toward the propane bombs left in the cafeteria, in an unsuccessful attempt to detonate them.

They left the cafeteria at 11:46.

They re-entered the library, which was empty of survivors except for the unconscious Ireland and the injured Kreutz. Once inside, at 12:02 p.m., police were shot at again through the library windows and returned fire. Nobody was injured in the exchange. By 12:05, all gunfire from the school had ceased. By 12:08 p.m., both gunmen had killed themselves. Harris sat down with his back to a bookshelf and fired his shotgun through the roof of his mouth; Klebold went down on his knees and shot himself in the left temple with his TEC-9.



At 2:15 p.m., students placed a sign in the window: "1 bleeding to death", in order to alert police and medical personnel of Dave Sanders' location in the science room.

Police initially feared it was a ruse by the shooters.

By 3:00, the SWAT officers had moved Sanders to a storage room, which was more easily accessible. As they did so, a paramedic arrived and found Sanders had no pulse. He had died of his injuries in the storage room before he could receive medical care. He was the only teacher to die in the shooting.

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Patrick Ireland had regained and lost consciousness several times after being shot by Klebold.

Paralyzed on his right side, he crawled to the library windows where, on live television, at 2:38 p.m., he stretched out the window, intending to fall into the arms of two SWAT team members standing on the roof of an emergency vehicle, but instead falling directly onto the vehicle's roof in a pool of blood.

He became known as "the boy in the window."



The Columbine effect is the legacy and impact of the Columbine High School massacre.

The shooting has had an effect on school safety, policing tactics, prevention methods (including gun control and metal detectors), and inspired numerous copycat crimes, with many killers taking their inspiration from Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold by describing the two perpetrators as being martyrs or heroes.

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The Columbine shootings influenced subsequent school shootings, with several such plots mentioning it. Fear of copycats has sometimes led to the closing of entire school districts.

In the link posted above ↑ you can find the entire list of "Copycats."



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Six months after the shootings, Anne Marie Hochhalter's mother killed herself.

Several former students and teachers had PTSD

Greg Barnes, a 17-year-old student who had witnessed Sanders' shooting, committed suicide in May 2000.

Survivor Austin Eubanks, who was injured during the shooting, became heavily medicated, developing an opioid addiction.

Eventually overcoming and later speaking publicly about the addiction, Eubanks died from an accidental overdose in 2019 at the age of 37.





The bombing took place at Gimpo International Airport at 3:12 p.m. on Sept. 14, 1986, just a week before the opening of the 1986 Seoul Asian Games. A high-performance homemade time bomb suddenly exploded in a steel trash can next to a beverage vending machine located between gates 5 and 6 on the first floor of the Gimpo International Airport (currently the domestic office building), killing a total of five people, including four transmitters and a couple, and an employee of the Korea International Airport Corporation (currently the Korea International Airport Corporation).

At that time, Korea made a great shock to the people because it was a terrorist attack at Gimpo International Airport, the representative gateway of the Republic of Korea at that time, while Korea was making all-out efforts to achieve rapid national prestige by attracting the 1986 Seoul Asian Games and the 1988 Seoul Olympics

At that time, it became an unsolved case and was not heavily reported due to the influence of media control, so unlike other cases, it was forgotten relatively quickly in people's memories. The bomb was Composition-4, which was mainly used by North Korea for terrorism. However, as foreign athletes came in and International Olympic Committee Chairman Juan Antonio Samaranch was also scheduled to visit Korea the day after the incident, the authorities thought it was urgent to quickly clean up the scene of the incident due to national image management, so they called in cleaners to clean up the debris without permission. Therefore, the preservation of the scene of the incident failed, and the suspect of the crime was prevented from leaving the country, and the investigation was conducted and investigated, but no charges were found, and a reward of 10 million won was offered to Interpol member states to cooperate in the investigation, but it was eventually concluded as an unsolved case in which the criminal as well as the purpose of the crime could not be identified,

Later, in 2009, monthly Joseon named Abu Nidal (real name Sabri al-Bana) as the culprit, a Palestinian who was called the "Viper of the Desert" who led the 1985 attack on Rome and Vienna airports and the hijacking of Pan American Airlines Flight 73 in 1986 and killed even a close aide of moderate PLO chairman Yasser Arafat without hesitation. According to the investigation, Abu Nidal was contracted by North Korea and infiltrated his subordinates into the Republic of Korea to cause a bombing. At that time, Kim Il-sung and Abu Nidal had a close relationship with secret documents and his statements from East German intelligence agency Stasi, and Abu Nidal even trained key members in North Korea. Then, North Korea bought the bombing, and Abu Nidal entrusted the task to Samrin, the second-in-command of his organization, and Krabbe, a woman from the German Red Army, and agreed to receive US$5 million from North Korea in return. Samrin ordered Abu Ibrahim, an explosives manufacturing engineer, to deliver explosives to South Korea, and Ibrahim left Krabbe, his partner, to transport explosives to South Korea. After the success of the attack, the North Korean regime reportedly transferred $5 million from Switzerland to Abu Nidal's secret account at a bank in Vienna, Austria. He was later killed in Iraq on August 16, 2002, but the real terrorists, Ibrahim and Krabbe, are known to have survived and have lived in Iraq for a long time before fleeing to Syria in April 2003 after the Iraq War broke out.

where the bombings took place

Pictures of injured people, bodies, and lots of blood after the explosion

A view of Abu Nidal (Sabri al-Bana), the head of the bombing


Robert Bales is an American mass murderer and former Army sniper who fatally shot or stabbed 16 Afghan civilians in a mass murder in Panjwayi District, Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, on March 11, 2012 – an event known as the Kandahar massacre. On March 10, Bales was posted to guard duty with a private in his unit, with whom he discussed a promotion that he wanted and thought he deserved, since he had already been passed over for the promotion once before. While on watch, Bales saw lights flashing on and off in the nearby villages of Naja Bien and Alikozai, and concluded that Taliban insurgents were communicating with light signals. When he was relieved of guard duty at 9 pm, he claims that he alerted the new guard team of this and that they did not take him seriously, but the Army denies that the conversation ever took place. He then joined SSG David Godwin and Sergeant (SGT) Jason McLaughlin to drink whiskey mixed with diet soda from a plastic water bottle, although drinking alcohol was prohibited on base. Bales says he had had six or seven drinks over the next couple of hours while watching the movie Man on Fire – a revenge action film about an ex-military bodyguard who goes on a murderous rampage after the girl he has been hired to protect is kidnapped and presumed dead. According to the Army's investigation, as Bales became increasingly intoxicated, he once again discussed his prospective promotion to Sergeant First Class, the anger he felt about his comrades being seriously injured by insurgent attacks, his complaints about the leadership of the Green Berets, his marriage, and his financial troubles. Around midnight, Bales consumed a handful of over-the-counter sleeping pills, stating that he had not slept in days and wanted to rest. The pills did not move him to sleep, so he took his concerns to Green Beret SGT Clayton Blackshear, emphasizing that he felt he and his men were not doing enough to stop Taliban insurgents from operating freely in the area and targeting US soldiers. Bales also requested to take Blackshear's place and run point when the men were patrolling on foot a job that Bales had done while in Iraq. Per Blackshear's testimony in the Army's investigation, Bales said that he did not care if he died in the line of duty, because his life did not matter as much as the lives of Blackshear and younger soldiers. Blackshear informed Bales that the Green Berets were short-staffed and could not take decisive action until their forces were replenished. Bales then went back to his room and laid awake.

In the early morning hours of March 11, 2012, Bales killed 16 Afghan civilians (nine children, some as young as two years old, four women and three men) in the villages of Balandi and Alkozai in the Panjwayi District of Kandahar Province near Camp Belambai. According to official reports, Bales left combat outpost Camp Belamby at 3:00 am local time wearing night vision goggles. Bales was wearing traditional Afghan clothing over his ACU. Government officials with knowledge of the investigation state that the killings were carried out in two phases, with Bales returning to base in between. An Afghan guard reported a soldier returning to base at 1:30 am, and another guard reported a soldier leaving at 2:30 am. Bales is believed to have first gone to Alkozai, about 1⁄2 mile (0.80 km) north of Camp Belambay, then to Najiban (called Balandi in earlier reports), located 1+1⁄2 miles (2.4 km) south of the base. Four people were killed and six wounded in Alkozai, and twelve people were killed in Najiban. U.S. sentries at the base heard gunshots in Alkozai, but did not take action besides attempting to view Alkozai from their post inside the base. Until March 22, U.S. authorities recognized 16 people killed, including nine children, four men, and three women. On March 22 that number was revised to 17,but later reduced back to 16. It was initially reported that five others were injured, and that number was eventually increased to six.



(Some bodies were burned by Bales VV)

Bales was quickly transferred out of Afghanistan, stopping in Kuwait. The sudden transfer to Kuwait prompted a diplomatic uproar, as the Kuwaiti government heard about the Bales case from news reports before hearing from the U.S. government. "When they learned about it, the Kuwaitis blew a gasket and wanted him out of there", an unnamed official said. On March 16, 2012, Bales was flown from Kuwait to the Midwest Joint Regional Correctional Facility in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, a state-of-the-art, medium/minimum custody facility. According to U.S. Army Colonel James Hutton, Chief of Media Relations, Bales was being held in special housing in his own cell and was able to go outside the cell "for hygiene and recreational purposes." In October 2012 he was transferred to Northwest Joint Regional Correctional Facility at Joint Base Lewis-McChord. On March 23, 2012, the U.S. government charged Bales with seventeen counts of murder, six counts of attempted murder, and six counts of assault. On June 1, the government dropped one of the murder charges, because one victim had been double counted. Simultaneously, other charges were filed including abuse of steroids, alcohol consumption, and attempting to destroy evidence. Assault charges were increased from six to seven.


Civilian attorney John Henry Browne defended Bales with assigned military lawyers. Browne was retained by the sergeant's family and has described Bales as "mild-mannered", and claims his client was upset after seeing a friend's leg blown off the day before the killings, but held no animosity toward Muslims. "I think the message for the public in general is that he's one of our boys and they need to treat him fairly."

Browne has denied the deadly rampage was caused by alcohol intoxication or marital problems and said Bales was "reluctant to serve." According to Browne, Bales did not want to return to the front lines. Browne said, "He wasn't thrilled about going on another deployment ... he was told he wasn't going back, and then he was told he was going." Browne also criticized anonymous reports from government officials, stating "the government is going to want to blame this on an individual rather than blame it on the war."

Bales had no history of mental disorder, and had undergone an extensive mental health screening to become a sniper in 2008. In 2010, he suffered a concussion in a car accident, underwent traumatic brain injury treatment at Fort Lewis, and was deemed healthy. Investigators examining his medical history described his ten-year Army career as "unremarkable" and found no evidence of serious traumatic brain injury or post-traumatic stress. A high-ranking U.S. official told The New York Times, "When it all comes out, it will be a combination of stress, alcohol and domestic issues—he just snapped."

As part of the legal proceedings, an Article 32 hearing, was held November 5–13, 2012, at Joint Base Lewis-McChord. The hearing included eyewitnesses testimony from Afghanistan via a live video link; Bales did not testify. The hearing concluded with prosecutors requesting the death penalty.

On May 29, 2013, it was announced Bales would plead guilty (thereby avoiding the death penalty) and describe the events of March 11, 2012. On June 5, Bales pleaded guilty in a plea deal to 16 counts of murder and six counts of assault and attempted murder. When asked by judge Col. Jeffery Nance "What was your reason for killing them?", he said he had asked himself that question "a million times" and added, "There’s not a good reason in this world for why I did the horrible things I did." He maintained he didn't recall setting bodies on fire, but admitted the evidence was clear that he had. He said he'd taken the steroids solely to be "huge and jacked" and blamed them for "definitely" increasing his irritability and anger.

At the sentencing hearing, defense attorneys argued for a sentence of life with the possibility of parole, arguing that he was a troubled man who snapped, not a "cold-blooded murderer". Bales took to the stand to issue an apology to his victims, saying he would bring them back to life if he could. Lt. Col Jay Morse, who is a member of the US Army Trial Counsel Assistance Program, was the lead prosecutor in the Bales case. The prosecution, seeking life without the possibility of parole, closed their arguments with: "In just a few short hours, Sgt. Bales wiped out generations. Sgt. Bales dares to ask you for mercy when he has shown none."

On August 23, a six-person jury sentenced Bales to life in prison without parole. He was also demoted to the lowest enlisted rank, dishonorably discharged and will forfeit all pay and allowances. A commanding general overseeing the court-martial has the option of reducing the sentence to life with the possibility of parole. Afghan villagers and the families of Bales' victims were upset by the decision, saying he deserved death. Bales is incarcerated at United States Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth.

EFFORTPOST The Victims of Bella Gunness (Her victims were Men and her own Children)

Belle Gunness' BIO:marseyshy3:

  • Belle and her Children

Belle was born in Selbu, Norway in 1858, and emigrated to the United States in 1886(estimated). Belle was six feet tall (183 cm) tall, and weighed over 200 pounds. She had two daughters named Myrtle and Lucy, who she killed. Her apparent motives involved collecting life insurance, cash and other valuables, and eliminating witnesses. Reports estimate that she killed between 25 and 40 people over several decades. She married Mads Sorenson in 1893. They owned a Chicago store that only turned a profit after it burned and they collected the insurance. In 1900 Sorenson died of convulsions and Belle received about $8,000 from his life insurance.

By 1902 Belle was in La Porte. On April Fool's Day of that year she married Peter Gunness. They worked a farm on McClung Road. Peter died after a coffee grinder fell from a shelf and hit him on the head. The insurance company reluctantly paid on his policy. Belle began advertising in Norwegian language newspapers, "Widow, with mortgaged farm, seeks marriage. Triflers need not apply."

Apparently many answered her letters. Belle would introduce them as relatives. Belle's pretty, 18 year old niece, Jenny Olson, got suspicious because the suitors always left the farm during the night. Soon Jenny was away at school in California, according to Belle.:marseyxoxo:

First Victim::marseycyanide:

In 1884, Gunness married Mads Ditlev Anton Sorenson in Chicago, Illinois, where, two years later, they opened a confectionery store. The business was not successful; within a year the shop mysteriously burned down. They collected insurance, which paid for another home.

Though some researchers assert that the Sorenson union produced no offspring, other investigators report that the couple had four children: Caroline, Axel, Myrtle, and Lucy. Caroline and Axel died in infancy, allegedly of acute colitis. The symptoms of acute colitis — nausea, fever, diarrhea, and lower abdominal pain and cramping — are also symptoms of many forms of poisoning. Both Caroline's and Axel's lives were reportedly insured, and the insurance company paid out.

A May 7, 1908 article in The New York Times states that two children belonging to Gunness and her husband Mads Sorensen were interred in her plot in Forest Home cemetery.

On June 13, 1900, Gunness and her family were counted on the United States Census in Chicago. The census recorded her as the mother of four children, of whom only two were living: Myrtle A., 3, and Lucy B., 1. An adopted 10-year-old girl, identified possibly as Morgan Couch but apparently later known as Jennie Olsen, also was counted in the household.

Sorenson died on July 30, 1900, reportedly the only day on which two life insurance policies on him overlapped. The first doctor to see him thought he was suffering from strychnine poisoning. However, the Sorensons' family doctor had been treating him for an enlarged heart, and he concluded that death had been caused by heart failure. An autopsy was considered unnecessary because the death was not thought suspicious. Gunness told the doctor that she had given her late husband medicinal "powders" to help him feel better.

She applied for the insurance money the day after her husband's funeral. Sorenson's relatives claimed that Gunness had poisoned her husband to collect on the insurance. Surviving records suggest that an inquest was ordered. It is unclear, however, whether that investigation actually occurred or Sorenson's body was ever exhumed to check for arsenic, as his relatives demanded. The insurance companies awarded her $8,500 (about $217,000 in 2008 dollars), with which she bought a farm on the outskirts of La Porte, Indiana

The body of Andrew Helgelein was the first to be uncovered in a shallow grave in the garden:

Suspicion of Murder: :marseyquestion::marseysquint:

In 1901, Gunness bought a house on McClung Road. Soon after, both the boat and carriage houses burned down. After moving to LaPorte from Chicago, she married Peter Gunness, a recent widower. A week later, Peter's infant daughter died in Belle's care. In December 1902, Peter had a fatal accident, with conflicting stories about the cause. A year later, Peter's daughter Swanhilde went to live with relatives in Wisconsin, the only child to survive living with Belle.

Peter's death brought Belle another $3,000 (some sources say $4,000). The coroner declared it murder, suspecting Belle. Her foster daughter, Jennie Olsen, allegedly confessed to a classmate. Jennie denied it when brought before the coroner's jury. Belle didn't mention she was pregnant, and in May 1903 she had a baby boy named Phillip.

Belle claimed Jennie had gone to a college in Los Angeles, but Jennie's body was later found on Belle's property. Between 1903 and 1906, Belle managed the farm. In 1907, she hired a farm hand named Ray Lamphere.

The Suitors::marseyfedora:

In the year 1901, Gunness penned an intriguing personal advertisement, which she strategically placed in the matrimonial sections of prominent Chicago newspapers as well as those in several other sizable Midwestern cities. The message was as follows:

"Personal — comely widow who owns a large farm in one of the finest districts in La Porte County, Indiana, desires to make the acquaintance of a gentleman equally well provided, with view of joining fortunes. No replies by letter considered unless sender is willing to follow answer with personal visit. Triflers need not apply."

This provocative advertisement caught the attention of several middle-aged, financially secure men. Among them was John Moe, who journeyed from Elbow Lake, Minnesota, boasting of carrying over a thousand dollars to settle Gunness' mortgage. To the curious neighbors, Gunness introduced him as her cousin. Strangely, Moe disappeared from the farm within a week of his arrival.

Following Moe was George Anderson, hailing from Tarkio, Missouri, much like Peter Gunness and John Moe, he too was an immigrant from Norway. As they dined together, the topic of Gunness' mortgage surfaced. Anderson consented to settling it in the event they chose to marry. However, a peculiar and unsettling incident occurred late that night. Anderson awoke to the sight of Gunness standing over him, a guttering candle illuminating her face with an eerie expression. Without uttering a single word, she swiftly exited the room. Anderson, disturbed, fled from the house, hastily catching a train to Missouri.

The parade of suitors continued, yet none, except for Anderson, ever emerged from Gunness' farm. By this juncture, she had begun the conspicuous practice of ordering substantial trunks to be delivered to her residence. Clyde Sturgis, a hack driver, was a frequent courier of these bulky containers from La Porte. He later recounted how the robust woman would hoist these massive trunks effortlessly, as if they were mere boxes of marshmallows, hefting them onto her broad shoulders and conveying them into her abode. Furthermore, the shutters of her house remained perpetually drawn, casting a shroud of mystery over her activities, day and night. Observant farmers passing by in the nocturnal hours even claimed to have glimpsed her digging in the hog pen.

Enter Ole B. Budsberg, an elderly widower from Iola, Wisconsin, who would be the next to cross paths with Gunness. The last sighting of Budsberg alive was at the La Porte Savings Bank on April 6, 1907. On that day, he mortgaged his Wisconsin land, signing over a deed and procuring several thousand dollars in cash. What his sons, Oscar and Mathew Budsberg, were initially unaware of was their father's fateful visit to Gunness. When they eventually uncovered his whereabouts, they penned a letter to her, seeking answers. Gunness promptly replied, adamantly asserting that she had never encountered their father.

Over the course of 1907, a number of other middle-aged men made brief appearances on the Gunness farm, only to vanish shortly thereafter. Then, in December of that year, a correspondence began between Andrew Helgelien, a bachelor farmer from Aberdeen, South Dakota, and Gunness. Their letters flowed back and forth, building a connection, until one particular letter arrived, dated January 13, 1908. This letter would later be discovered at the Helgelien farm, written meticulously in Gunness' own hand. It read:

"To the Dearest Friend in the World: No woman in the world is happier than I am. I know that you are now to come to me and be my own. I can tell from your letters that you are the man I want. It does not take one long to tell when to like a person, and you I like better than anyone in the world, I know. Think how we will enjoy each other's company. You, the sweetest man in the whole world. We will be all alone with each other. Can you conceive of anything nicer? I think of you constantly. When I hear your name mentioned, and this is when one of the dear children speaks of you, or I hear myself humming it with the words of an old love song, it is beautiful music to my ears. My heart beats in wild rapture for you, My Andrew, I love you. Come prepared to stay forever."

In response to this impassioned letter, Andrew Helgelien embarked on a journey to Gunness' side in January of 1908. Clutched in his hand was a check for $2,900, his entire savings, withdrawn from his local bank. A few days after Helgelien's arrival, both he and Gunness appeared at the Savings Bank in La Porte, jointly depositing the check. However, Helgelien would soon disappear, leaving behind unanswered questions and a growing air of suspicion. Nevertheless, Gunness, undeterred, returned to the Savings Bank to make a $500 deposit, followed by another deposit of $700 at the State Bank. It was around this juncture that she began to face challenges posed by a man named Ray Lamphere.

March of 1908 saw Gunness dispatching numerous letters to a farmer and horse dealer named Lon Townsend in Topeka, Kansas, extending an invitation for him to visit her. Townsend, however, opted to postpone the visit until the onset of spring, thus never having set eyes on Gunness before the fateful fire at her farm. Gunness also corresponded with a gentleman from Arkansas, sending a letter dated May 4, 1908. Although he expressed intent to visit, the impending disaster at her farm would alter these plans. In a separate instance, Gunness purportedly pledged her hand in marriage to a suitor named Bert Albert, yet the union never materialized, owing to his insufficient wealth.


Ray Lamphere, the hired hand, harbored a profound love for Gunness, willingly undertaking even the most grisly tasks for her. However, as a stream of suitors vied for Gunness' attention, Lamphere's jealousy erupted in public scenes. Ultimately, on February 3, 1908, Gunness dismissed him from her employ.

Shortly after parting ways with Lamphere, Gunness made an appearance at the La Porte courthouse, asserting that her former employee posed a public threat due to his perceived mental instability. She managed to persuade local authorities to convene a sanity hearing for Lamphere. He was ultimately declared mentally sound and released. Nevertheless, Gunness returned to the sheriff a few days later, reporting a visit from Lamphere to her farm, prompting his subsequent arrest for trespassing.

Despite her efforts to sever ties, Lamphere persisted in seeking her company, but Gunness rebuffed him. Lamphere's veiled threats grew increasingly brazen, with one occasion leading him to confide in farmer William Slater, cryptically stating, "Helgelien won't bother me no more. We fixed him for keeps." Helgelien's absence from La Porte was noted, assumed to be a matter of his own volition. However, his brother, Asle Helgelien, grew concerned when Andrew failed to return home, prompting him to correspond with Belle in Indiana, seeking information on his sibling's whereabouts.

In her response, Gunness assured Asle Helgelien that his brother was not at her farm and likely ventured to Norway for a familial visit. Unconvinced, Asle Helgelien contended that Andrew was likely still in the La Porte vicinity, where he was last seen or heard from. Gunness remained steadfast, offering to assist in a search but cautioned about the costs associated with such endeavors.

It was not until May that Asle Helgelien arrived in La Porte to initiate his own inquiry. Meanwhile, Lamphere remained a lingering menace, while Asle's inquiries loomed as a potential threat to Gunness. Fearing for her life and that of her children, she confided in a local attorney, M.E. Leliter, expressing concerns about Lamphere's alleged threats to kill her and burn down her home. In response, Leliter drafted a will at her request, bequeathing her entire estate to her children. Following this, she settled her mortgage at a La Porte bank. Notably, she refrained from reporting Lamphere's purported threats to the police, leaving many to later speculate that her actions were calculated steps toward her own sinister agenda.

Morbid Discovery::marseycat:

Gunness' dentist, Dr. Ira P. Norton, said that if the teeth/dental work of the headless corpse had been located he could definitely ascertain if it was she. Thus Louis "Klondike" Schultz, a former miner, was hired to build a sluice and begin sifting the debris (as more bodies were unearthed, the sluice was used to isolate human remains on a larger scale). On May 19, 1908, a piece of bridgework was found consisting of two human canine teeth, their roots still attached, porcelain teeth and gold crown work in between. Norton identified them as work done for Gunness. As a result, Coroner Charles Mack officially concluded that the adult female body discovered in the ruins was Belle Gunness.

  • Asle Helgelien arrived in La Porte and told Sheriff Smutzer that he believed his brother had met with foul play at Gunness' hands. Then, Joe Maxson came forward with information that could not be ignored: He told the Sheriff that Gunness had ordered him to bring loads of dirt by wheelbarrow to a large area surrounded by a high wire fence where the hogs were fed. Maxson said that there were many deep depressions in the ground that had been covered by dirt. These filled-in holes, Gunness had told Maxson, contained rubbish. She wanted the ground made level, so he filled in the depressions.

  • Smutzer took a dozen men back to the farm and began to dig. On May 3, 1908, the diggers unearthed the body of Jennie Olson (vanished December 1906). Then they found the small bodies of two unidentified children. Subsequently the body of Andrew Helgelien was unearthed (his overcoat was found to be worn by Lamphere). As days progressed and the gruesome work continued, one body after another was discovered in Gunness' hog pen:

  • Ole B. Budsberg of Iola, Wisconsin, (vanished May 1907);

  • Thomas Lindboe, who had left Chicago and had gone to work as a hired man for Gunness three years earlier;

  • Henry Gurholdt of Scandinavia, Wisconsin, who had gone to wed her a year earlier, taking $1,500 to her; a watch corresponding to one belonging to Gurholdt was found with a body;

  • Olaf Svenherud, from Chicago;

  • John Moe of Elbow Lake, Minnesota; his watch was found in Lamphere's possession;

  • Olaf Lindbloom, age 35 from Wisconsin.

  • Reports of other possible victims began to come in:

  • William Mingay, a coachman of New York City, who had left that city on April 1, 1904;

  • Herman Konitzer of Chicago who disappeared in January 1906;

  • Charles Edman of New Carlisle, Indiana;

  • George Berry of Tuscola, Illinois;

  • Christie Hilkven of Dovre, Barron County, Wisconsin, who sold his farm and came to La Porte in 1906;

  • Chares Neiburg, a 28-year-old Scandinavian immigrant who lived in Philadelphia, told friends that he was going to visit Gunness in June 1906 and never came back — he had been working for a saloon keeper and took $500 with him;

  • John H. McJunkin of Coraopolis (near Pittsburgh) left his wife in December 1906 after corresponding with a La Porte woman;

  • Olaf Jensen, a Norwegian immigrant of Carroll, Indiana, wrote his relatives in 1906 he was going to marry a wealthy widow at La Porte;

  • Henry Bizge of La Porte who disappeared June 1906 and his hired man named Edward Canary of Pink Lake Ill who also vanished 1906;

  • Bert Chase of Mishawaka, Indiana sold his butcher shop and told friends of a wealthy widow and that he was going to look her up; his brother received a telegram supposedly from Aberdeen, South Dakota claiming Bert had been killed in a train wreck; his brother investigated and found the telegram was fictitious;

  • Tonnes Peterson Lien of Rushford, Minnesota, is alleged to have disappeared April 2, 1907;

  • A gold ring marked "S.B. May 28, 1907" was found in the ruins;

  • A hired man named George Bradley of Tuscola, Illinois, is alleged to have gone to La Porte to meet a widow and three children in October 1907;

  • T.J. Tiefland of Minneapolis is alleged to have come to see Gunness in 1907;

  • Frank Riedinger a farmer of Waukesha, Wisconsin, came to Indiana in 1907 to marry and never returned;

  • Emil Tell, a Swede from Kansas City, Missouri, is alleged to have gone in 1907 to La Porte;

  • Lee Porter of Bartonville, Oklahoma separated from his wife and told his brother he was going to marry a wealthy widow at La Porte;

  • John E. Hunter left Duquesne, Pennsylvania, on November 25, 1907 after telling his daughters he was going to marry a wealthy widow in Northern Indiana.

  • Two other Pennsylvanians — George Williams of Wapawallopen and Ludwig Stoll of Mount Yeager — also left their homes to marry in the West.

  • Abraham Phillips, a railway man of Burlington, West Virginia, left in the winter of 1907 to go to Northern Indiana and marry a rich widow — a railway watch was found in the debris of the house.

  • Benjamin Carling of Chicago, Illinois, was last seen by his wife in 1907 after telling her that he was going to La Porte to secure an investment with a rich widow; he had with him $1,000 from an insurance company and borrowed money from several investors as well; in June 1908 his widow was able to identify his remains from La Porte's Pauper's cemetery by the contour of his skull and three missing teeth;

  • Aug. Gunderson of Green Lake, Wisconsin;

  • Ole Oleson of Battle Creek, Michigan;

  • Lindner Nikkelsen of Huron, South Dakota;

  • Andrew Anderson of Lawrence, Kansas;

  • Johann Sorensen of St. Joseph, Missouri;

  • A possible victim was a man named Hinkley;

  • Reported unnamed victims were:

  • a daughter of Mrs. H. Whitzer of Toledo, Ohio, who had attended Indiana University near La Porte in 1902;

  • an unknown man and woman are alleged to have disappeared in September 1906, the same night Jennie Olson went missing. Gunness claimed they were a Los Angeles "professor" and his wife who had taken Jennie to California;

  • a brother of Miss Jennie Graham of Waukesha, Wisconsin, who had left her to marry a rich widow in La Porte but vanished;

  • a hired man from Ohio age 50 name unknown is alleged to have disappeared and Gunness became the "heir" to his horse and buggy;

  • an unnamed man from Montana told people at a resort he was going to sell Gunness his horse and buggy, which were found with several other horses and buggies at the farm.

Most of the remains found on the property could not be identified. Because of the crude recovery methods, the exact number of individuals unearthed on the Gunness farm is unknown, but is believed to be approximately twelve. On May 19, 1908 remains of approximately seven unknown victims were buried in two coffins in unmarked graves in the pauper's section of LaPorte's Pine Lake Cemetery. Andrew Helgelien and Jennie Olson are buried in La Porte's Patton Cemetery, near Peter Gunness.

Images from her Farm::marseysneed:

A crate full of bones and body parts found buried on the farm.


Bones and body parts found buried on the farm.


Remains of Andrew Helgelien.


The head of one of Belle Gunness' victims.

OTHER PHOTOS::marseyneat:


*Belle Gunness' teeth?

These fake teeth were found in the rubble of the burnt farmhouse. Belle Gunness' dentist

claimed they were Belle's teeth and that the headless body of the woman found in the

fire could be Belle's. But witnesses said the teeth were planted there.*


Evidence found on the Gunness property.


People came from near and far to watch as police investigated these horrific crimes.


Four bodies here.


*Ray Lamphere, Gunness's hired hand, was arrested for murder and arson on May 22, 1908.

He was found guilty of arson, but cleared of murder. He died in prison, but not before

revealing the truth about Belle Gunness and her crimes, including burning

her own house down.*


Belle Gunness' property.


EFFORTPOST Men tortured in Lebanese prison - two vids and news info from 2015

Guys could be cuter, especially in second video... But hey, human rights activists always want people to spread the word! :marseytroublemaker: Descriptions, news info and links (e.g. Human Rights Watch) will come under videos, now time for them.

Here guy on floor full of water gets beaten:

Here group of men, first they beat fat one, then casual one:

Here another guy tormented while laying on bed, reportedly hospital not prison (unrelated, but was included in same video series):

Autotranslated descriptions (don't know Arabic) were saying:

  1. 'method of torture in Roumieh prison during the last intifada' (vid from June 2015)

  2. 'other videos of the torture of the Sunnis in the prisons of the Lebanese state' (June 2015)

  3. 'young Syrian was beaten in Lebanon's hospitals' (August 2014)

Turned out it was also a news case. First news I found is from 21th of June 2015 (updated year later). Videos were presented with blurred out parts.

Two prison guards accused of torturing inmates inside a prison in Lebanon have been arrested, ministers told reporters on Sunday, a day after videos of prisoners receiving harsh beatings sparked uproar in the country.

Initially, Justice Minister Ashraf Rifi told reporters that two prison guards were arrested but the Interior Minister Nouhad Machnouk later said: “These two officers are not alone.”

“At least four others also committed mistakes and I have referred them to the judiciary,” Machnouk added.

Machnouk also said that other officers accused of torturing inmates have been kicked out of the Internal Security Forces (ISF).

Earlier, Arifi vowed that “the criminals will be punished, and he said “anyone who is proven to have participated in or covered the crime will be “subject to arrest.”

These tortures happened after a riot over living conditions. Roumieh prison is biggest one in Lebanon, and extremely overcrowded. In 2015, it became subject of interest of both media and activists. But also it's nothing new:

“These videos are the tip of the iceberg, and torture in Lebanon has been documented for a while,” a Human Rights Watch spokesperson told Al Jazeera.

“While it is great its finally getting attention, it’s also time for the authorities to look at it from a broader scope and address the underlying issues, and introduce proper oversight and reform.”

[...] stated the videos were filmed following an earlier riot in the prison in April 2015, when prisoners rioted against the poor conditions they were being held in. During the riot they set their mattresses on fire and briefly took several officers hostage.

One of the prisoner gripes is the lack of speedy trials; hundreds of detainees have been held without trial for years. Many of those are Islamists who were arrested following the 2007 Nahr el Bared conflict between armed rebels and the Lebanese army in the Palestinian refugee camp. [...] Roumieh is notorious for its poor conditions and overcrowding, and prisoners have rioted on several occasions in the past, the latest being in April.

In January 2015, as security forces moved prisoners from Cell Block B to D, footage from inside revealed what was called the ‘operation centre’ for many of the security incidents that took place inside the country.

That 2015 raid folowed terrorist attack in cafe in Jabal Mohsen area of Tripolis (the Lebanese one), which took place week earlier. (if anyone likes reading about human rights abuse)

EFFORTPOST 11th of June 2023 attacks in Dak Lak :marseyflagvietnam: Map, news info, photos and some WPD-exclusive gore

Thanks to some kind person, there will be gore to post. And possibly something else added in either edit or a pinned comment (I didn't want to delay posting this). Something you can actually say that the government doesn't want you to see :marseybow: There will be some explanations on what's problematic or puzzling about the state-controlled media news, too. The media only shared photos showing the authorities working (including the arrests) and property damage. They are in the third section - second is special content.


First, map:

More detailed one:

Around 0:35 AM (local time), not precized dozens of people attacked the Commune People's Committee headquarters in two communes - Ea Tieu and Ea Ktur - in the Cu Kuin district, Dak Tak province. They destroyed property and burned documents. State media also claim that the members of the two groups had broken into Special Forces Brigade No. 198’s barracks in Hoa Dong commune in Dak Lak province to steal weapons, but failed. One source claims it was around 10 people attacking in Eu Tien commune and around 30 attackers in Ea Ktur.

The official number of casualties is 9. Among them were 4 police officers, 2 officials (commune leaders), and 3 civilians. There were also 3 hostages (from Ea Tieu area), of whom two have already been rescued, and one escaped. Not only the police, but also the army looked for the suspects, from which nearly 50 were caught within the first few days. On 16th of June, it was reported in the news that all the leading suspects were arrested.

In a public announcement published on June 23, the Investigation Security Agency of the Dak Lak Provincial Police officially prosecuted 75 suspects on a charge of "conducting terrorism aimed at opposing the people's administration" under Article 113 of the Penal Code. These defendants face the maximum sentence of death penalty if convicted.

Adding to these 75:

Seven others were charged with “failing to denounce criminals,” while an eighth was charged with “hiding criminals” and a ninth with “organizing and brokering for others to exit, enter, or stay in Vietnam illegally.”

As of 1st of July, charges were pressed against these 84 people in total. Among them were 5 fugitives, all local people, aged from 31 to 55.

Apart from the language barrier, the state-controlled media also make spreading information harder. The official version says it was an organized terrorist attack. Among the arrested suspects were 'members of an organization based in the US, who had illegally entered Vietnam and directed the terror attacks'. Authorities claim that the common access to the internet is one of the reasons, why international terrorism may pose a threat to the national security. Quoting, 'terrorist and violent extremist groups thoroughly take advantage of technology, the internet and social networks to spread extremism around the world'.

Necessary explanation: FULRO is a French acronym for the United Front for the Liberation of Oppressed Races, a national front established in 1964 in the Central Highlands. Few problems with this case:

  1. It is unclear whether the suspects - some of them possibly facing the death penalty - had access to lawyers or legal assistance.

  2. Among the seized items were, reportedly, FULRO flags. Police released the photos of the seized weapons, but not of these reportedly seized flags.

  3. Foreign-based organizations representing the Montagnards (umbrella term for the indigenous people of Central Highlands) claim that they had no members involved in the attack. FULRO officially disbanded in the 1990s. Officials blamed the 'ongoing separatist movement linked to FULRO', but the human rights groups working on this province's problems claim that they only use non-violent methods. In 2020, there were 5 organizations in the US, which are considered by the State to be a 'descendants' or 'ghosts' of FULRO.

  4. Confessions of some detainees, aired by the state TV, couldn't be verified independently. It's not known if they publicly testified willingly.

Above-mentioned problems contrast with the official narration. It is definitely suggesting that the core of the problem were ethnic tensions between the majority (Kinh people) and the native minorities, further fuelled by the online hatred, and help or guidance by the foreign-based organizations. The suspects were described sometimes as mostly young people, having an extreme lifestyle full of illusions, and tricked into the attack online by the ringleaders. Media reported their alleged confessions, e.g. one guy claiming that they've recruited local people, who were encouraged by them (ringleaders) to these violent acts - but only these already convinced (as I understand, ideologically?) did agree. Other suspects 'claimed' they were told to kill any officials or cops, and one mentioned stabbing civilians, too.

Some problems about the aftermath:

  1. Authorities were looking for people spreading fake news online (at least on Facebook and TikTok), while the official information is reportedly often vague and lacking. Narration is one-sided, with the Ministry of Public Security deciding on what's reliable. It's hard to find examples of the misinformation, or false, toxic, negative, fabricated,... information. One example was the man who wrote that the attack resulted from 'land disputes between the people and local authorities'. Another post mentioned place of attacks incorrectly. Citizens were specifically warned to verify what is posted on anti-state websites. Still, there were no details on these anti-state fake news.

  2. Reportedly, after the attack, videos and short clips that emerged on social media depicted residents in Dak Lak (many of whom are ethnic Vietnamese) chasing and beating indigenous people. The residents thought that the victims were involved in the attacks.

  3. Another example of overreacting is on the authorities side. The perpetrators were wearing camouflage, which was not specific and often seen on people going to the forest or working out on the fields. However, markets were searched after the attack, and unprecized thousands of spots selling camouflaged clothing were located. Some was seized, as its origin was unclear, and could have been smuggled (including ones from the foreign brands, not allowed to be imported). Reportedly, this wasn't justified, as counterfeit and smuggled goods are being commonly sold. The camouflage itself shouldn't be a problem, and if it had any symbols or badges (relating to specific countries or forces), it would fall under separate regulations.


Autotranslating from RFA website:

Some people in the country let Radio Asia Freedom know after the shooting on June 11, and the police proceeded to arrest the suspects, that they posted photos and videos back on the scene on social media but were asked to take down by local authorities.

I guess that here are some of them.

Short video from the arrest of one of the suspects (with autotranslated subs).

CCTV recording:

Two videos showing the victims:

Photo (already shared on Twitter):

The identity of the police officers and officials killed in the attack is known. Their names are listed, along with some other details (place and year of birth), as they were posthumously promoted or awarded. A working delegation led by Deputy Prime Minister Tran Luu Quang visited two police officers injured, as well as the families. Media showed photos from the visit, and informed how PM asked the authorities to provide the emotional and material support (and not precised assistance) for the families and two officers injured. However, that's about the officers and officials families. Civilians seem to be skipped. Reason, which could be e.g. privacy, was not given. After asking about the videos above, I was told that state media didn't focus much on these civilian victims, as I could 'for some reason' cause riots. One of the civilians is described as driver, whose pickup truck was stopped around 1,5 km from the Eu Tien HQ, when he was shot.

There is a mention of another driver, whose vehicle was stopped, tires punctured and cabin set ablaze - but without precizing if he was killed or injured, or present inside this cabin (or close to) at all.

This is reportedly one of the documents leaked. Best I can do is OCR, any translation help would appreciated. It seems to be an instruction issued for the police, summarizing the attack, and describing what are the urgent and important tasks for the authorities. It's undated, but there is just 1 official dead mentioned, and according to the description, the perpetrators were still on the run (possibly moving?) when it was issued.


Video showing some suspects, weapons seized and property damage:

According to the spokesman of the Ministry of Public Security Lieutenant General To An Xo (speech from 23rd of June):

[...] competent authorities have seized 23 guns of all kinds, two grenades, 1,199 bullets, 15 detonators, 1.2kg of explosives, a silencer, two scopes, a set of mock mines, 30 knives, 10 FULRO flags and many vehicles and tools used by the suspects in the June 11 attacks.

Media show the same photos of the suspects in various forms, some blurred, some not, some partially black and white. Here few of them.

Photos of property damage from Ea Ktur:

Damage in Ea Tieu:

SOURCES :marseysalutepride: (photos from here) (army involved in the searches) (here is about the 'descendants' of FULRO and how they're thought to harm the State - from 2020) (and more from RFA) It wasn't used as a source, but I'll leave it here for these interested in how is the Protestant minority connected to FULRO and what problems this minority reported. It's from 2002, but minorities still claim to struggle.


Photo from the thumbnail: on 29th of July, 1994 - two weeks after the genocide ended - a refugee is carrying his baby towards a mass grave. It died of cholera, like tens of thousands of people who have fled to the neighbouring Democratic Republic of Congo.

Recently, some users have been complaining about the content here being 'not brutal enough' - well, not this time. If you don't want any reading and just want to see people dying or dead, go to the 2nd and 3rd section of this post.

tl;dr: In 1994, in Rwanda were 3 ethnic groups: Hutu (roughly 85% of the population), the Tutsi (14%), and the Twa (1%). The tensions between the first two were strengthened in the colonial period and escalating. In October 1990, a civil war started between the Rwanda Armed Forces (gov) and Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF; rebels). On 6th of April 1994, a plane approaching Kigali airport was taken down, with two presidents on board: Burundian and Rwandan, ethnically a Hutu. The blame was put on the Tutsis, giving a 'reason' to persecute them during a pre-planned genocide, lasting ~3 months. Two most often given numbers of victims killed are around 800,000 (UN) and ~1,000,000, of which ~94% were Tutsis (Rwandan gov). But the total number is far higher, including e.g. deaths due to health complications and cholera outbreaks among the refugees. Others weren't killed, but left either at risk (around 70% of rape victims being HIV-positive) or infertile due to genital mutilation.

Sections go as follows:

  1. Introduction and comment on the number of victims. Short videos here, relating to Rwandan president's death and French troops aware of the ongoing cleansing (which weren't the only ones - rest in text).

  2. Documenting the genocide. For now, there's a one footage showing the actual killing. Far more is available when it comes to the direct aftermath...

  3. ...which makes up the next section.

  4. Refugee crisis and the aftermath. Rwanda already had a refugee crisis, so it just got worse. Non-lethal methods of extermination are discussed here.

  5. Rape during the wartime and consequences long after. Here mostly text, for obvious reasons.

  6. Sources.


In 1994, in Rwanda were 3 ethnic groups: Hutu (roughly 85% of the population), the Tutsi (14%), and the Twa (1%). It's known that the divisions between the Hutu and Tutsi were initially fluid to some extent. Obtaining more cattle or wealth could allow a Hutu to become a Tutsi, and impoverished Tutsi could become Hutu. The divisions became more rigid during the Belgian colonial period and carried on after Rwanda gained independence (1962). By the majority rule, Hutu became the ones higher in hierarchy. Ethnicity was included in ID cards:

In October 1990, a civil war started between the Rwanda Armed Forces (gov side) and Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF; rebels side). On 6th of April 1994, a plane approaching Kigali airport was taken down, and among the victims were two presidents: Burundian and Rwandan. The second one, Juvenál Habyarimana, was ethnically a Hutu. The blame was put on the Tutsis, giving a 'reason' to persecute them. The genocide was pre-planned, though.

France24 news, 'French court rejects new probe into Rwandan President's 1994 death'. Shows both crash scene and some genocide victims, the rest is news info

Over the span of 3 months, between roughly 500,000 and 1,000,000 people were killed (of which ~200,000 were children). Rwandan official figures mention around 1 mln, with 94% being Tutsis (the rest were a moderate Hutus). UN gives the number of victims as 800,000, and one 2008 report bumps it to nearly 2 mln. However, there's an 'extended' number of victims - e.g. these who died shortly after due to the lack of medical care, or were infected by HIV (sometimes intentionally), or couldn't reproduce due to the mutilation of genitals. Statistics referring specifically to rape are included in the section dedicated to this.

It wasn't a surprise. A few months earlier, CIA knew that if nothing changes, things may escalate to the ethnic cleansings. As you will see in the next section, 'Documenting the genocide', the only footage showing actual killings were broadcasted by a few prominent agencies. Officials were receiving the warning signs. Intelligence reports obtained using the US Freedom of Information Act show that the cabinet, and probably also the president, were informed about the ethnic cleansings in planning (or already ongoing). When the killings have already started, UN troops - French and Belgian - knew this. They had to evacuate the foreigners, though.

'Video suggests French army turned blind eye on Rwanda massacre', France24 again.

About the warning signs, two longer quotes from The Guardian:

Shortly after the invasion, all Tutsis – whether RPF supporters or not – became targets of a vicious propaganda campaign that would bear hideous fruit in April 1994. Chauvinist Hutu newspapers, magazines and radio programmes began reminding Hutu audiences that they were the original occupants of the Great Lakes region and that Tutsis were Nilotics – supposedly warlike pastoralists from Ethiopia who had conquered and enslaved them in the 17th century. The RPF invasion was nothing more than a plot by Museveni, Kagame and their Tutsi co-conspirators to re-establish this evil Nilotic empire. Cartoons of Tutsis killing Hutus began appearing in magazines, along with warnings that all Tutsis were RPF spies bent on dragging the country back to the days when the Tutsi queen supposedly rose from her seat supported by swords driven between the shoulders of Hutu children. In December 1993, a picture of a machete appeared on the front page of a Hutu publication under the headline “What to do about the Tutsis?”

Habyarimana knew that the RPF, thanks to Ugandan backing, was better armed, trained and disciplined than his own army. Under immense international pressure, he had agreed in August 1993 to grant the RPF seats in a transitional government and nearly half of all posts in the army. Even Tutsis inside Rwanda were against giving the RPF so much power because they knew it could provoke the angry, fearful Hutus even more, and they were right. As Habyarimana’s increasingly weak government reluctantly acceded to the RPF’s demands for power, Hutu extremist mayors and other local officials began stockpiling rifles, and government-linked anti-Tutsi militia groups began distributing machetes and kerosene to prospective génocidaires. In January 1994, four months before the genocide, the CIA predicted that if tensions were not somehow defused, hundreds of thousands of people would die in ethnic violence. The powder keg awaited a spark to set it off.

What else did work, apart from radio propaganda? Thorsten Rogall researched the impact of a group consisting of roughly 50,000 soldiers and militants, who were promoting the killings across the country. According to him, 'much of Rwanda’s mass violence could have been stopped if key armed groups controlled by elites had been sidelined early'. Hutu militias weren't numerous enough, so to carry on the killings, convincing the civilians to turn against the Tutsi was necessary. Quite often no special measures were required, as a presence of the authorities convinced them on its own.

⠀DOCUMENTING THE GENOCIDE :marseycryinglaptop:

There's only one footage depicting the killings directly. It was taken by British freelance cameraman Nick Hughes on 11th of April 1994, in Gikondo - a stronghold of Hutu extremists. There were a few Western journalists left at the time. What you see in the video may be unclear, but the course of events is also known from the witnesses. The kneeling man was praying for the god to forgive his killers, while his daughter was cowering behind.

The victims remained unidentified for the next 15 years. Here they are. Justine Mukangango, who would turn 20 yo a two months later, and her father Gabriel Kabaga. Allan Thompson did the investigative job to find their family and at least at the time of article's publication (2009), have been visiting them rarely, but on regular. Rosalie was Gabriel's wife for around two decades.

We chatted about how things were going with her family. Her eldest son, Charles, is married and lives away. Yvette and Violette have finished their studies but don't yet have work. Isaac is going to school in Ruehengeri, in the northwest of Rwanda. And every day she misses her eldest daughter and husband.

Hughes has already heard about the killings, and corpses already got lined up in the streets. This video was taken on a Monday morning, after 10 AM. A few hours later, the recording was handled over to a stranger, about to board a plane to Nairobi. Then Hughes hollered through his satellite phone at a producer in Nairobi, who didn't realize the importance of that video. And so did the world audience. The footage was uploaded to London and distributed by the British agency WTN, for whom Hughes was freelancing. That night and the following morning, the video was aired by the CNN, Australian Broadcasting and German giant ZDF. Furthermore:

The footage was even fictionalized by producers of the film Hotel Rwanda, in the scene during which the cameraman played by Joaquin Phoenix bursts in to show his producer the video of a killing he has just captured in the streets of Kigali. In the Hollywood version, no one really cares. "How can they not intervene, when they witness such atrocities?" asks the heroic Rwandan hotel manager played by Don Cheadle. "If people see this footage, they'll say, `Oh, my God, that's horrible' and then go on eating their dinners," the cameraman played by Phoenix replies. And that's exactly what happened.


24th of April 1994. Here, unlucky journalists are asked by the soldiers to either leave cameras or go back. One says: 'I'm telling you politely, go and leave your cameras home, don't come with your cameras, you don't have permission.'. Building shown later is the prison with some suspects held. Context: Rwandan firing squads executed 22 people convicted of genocide on 24th of April, Friday.

Around 3 mins long video. I changed the music, as previously it was some a bit too dramatic instrumental added by whoever uploaded this. That's a stock footage, so I couldn't get the original if not paying.

Bodies lying on side of ride in Kigali during Rwanda civil war and genocide, 1994 (BBC News Archive Rushes - 01/04/1994 - ABSA627D).

A few clips from a Dutch documentary 'The Dead are Still Alive' from 1995. 40 secs, aftermath only:

14 secs, bodies in the river:

Now longer segment, beginning with a view for Kigali Airport (17th of April) from which the foreigners were evacuated.

Recorded on 18th of May, after the journalists have returned. Some corpses shown, including closeups, in quite unexpected style.


There was already a refugee crisis going on in Rwanda. Here's a map showing a situation in March 1994.

(from: )

A State Department "refugee fact sheet" issued in March 1994 (above) on the eve of the genocide summarizes three overlapping refugee crises in Rwanda and neighboring Burundi:

Hutu refugees from Burundi. An October 1993 coup attempt in Burundi, and assassination of the country's democratically elected Hutu president by Tutsi army officers, resulted in an exodus of predominantly Hutu refugees from Burundi. According to the State Department, about 287,000 Burundi refugees remained in southern Rwanda in March 1994.

Tutsi refugees from Rwanda. The State Department estimated that there were 550,000 predominantly Tutsi refugees in Central Africa, most of whom fled Rwanda in the pogroms that followed the overthrow of the Tutsi monarchy in 1959. The largest exile communities were located in Uganda (200,000) and Burundi (245,000).

Internally displaced persons fleeing RPF incursions into northern Rwanda from Uganda in 1990 and 1993. The State Department estimated that 350,000 Rwandans (predominantly Hutu, but also some Tutsi) remained displaced as a result of fighting between the RPF and the Rwandan government.

As a consequence of the cleansings, around 1 mln Rwandans were internally displaced, and from 1,2 to 1,5 mln fled to neighbouring countries. About 1 mln headed to Eastern Zaire - currently Democratic Republic of Congo - and settled in the camps scattered along the border. The biggest influx of refugees happened in Goma, in North Kivu province: between 14th and 18th of July, between 500,000 and 850,000 people - mostly Hutus - crossed the border. Efforts were put into meeting the international standards when it comes to the water supply, latrine construction, and food distribution. The situation remained unsafe due to the former Rwandan army and the Interhamwe militia activity in camps. During the first few weeks of emergency, infectious diseases posed the greatest risk. In Goma, the first case of cholera was confirmed on 20th of July. More than 48,000 victims were buried during a one month period (14th of July to 14th of August), and the overall number of cases is estimated at between 58,000 and 80,000. Mortality was two to three times bigger than observed in recent humanitarian crises in Ethiopia, Sudan, Somalia and Iraq. Apart from cholera, dysentery was widespread early during the crisis.

First, two more maps.

Death’s geography. Murder rates during a 100-day genocide varied greatly across Rwanda’s municipalities, or communes. A national survey indicated that areas of high violence (darker colors) had low levels of marriage and employment but high levels of education.

The chart below is a map of civilian violence across Rwanda. It shows the number of civilians prosecuted for serious crimes during the Rwandan genocide—along with major roads.

From 2021. Nearly a Pareto rule in working :marseywink:

In the end, Rogall estimates that the 50,000 militiamen—roughly 10 percent of the total number of perpetrators—were ultimately responsible for over 80 percent of the Tutsi deaths.

A few photos related to the topic. 'Not gory, but...'.

7 July 1994: A Rwandan Patriotic Front rebel examines a nail-spiked club found near a militia checkpoint which was abandoned after the rebels captured Kigali. Such weapons were used by the militia to slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Tutsis and opposition Hutus.

11 May 1994- A Canadian Military Police officer plays with refugee children at the Kigali sports stadium where they were living with around 20,000 Rwandans who fled their homes.

23 July 1994- An aid truck full of medical supplies makes its way past scores of bodies of Rwandan refugees who died of cholera.

20 May 1994- Fishermen pile up corpses for burial at Kasensero village in Uganda. The bodies were carried by the Akagera river from Rwanda into Lake Victoria.

27 June 1994- A French soldier shakes hands with Hutu children in the village of Murutu, 60 km from the border with Zaire. (currently DRC)

The 1995 Pulitzer Prize Winner in Feature Photography was staff of the Associated Press, for its portfolio of photographs chronicling the horror and devastation in Rwanda. You can check all the photos with descriptions here: It's worth mentioning that the winner in International Reporting category was Mark Fritz, for his reporting on the ethnic violence and slaughter in Rwanda. Check his 10 short articles here:

⠀⠀RAPE AND ITS AFTERMATH :marseysmug3:

There's a good reason to make this a separate section. Rape was a non-lethal 'strategy' for the cleansings. Unfortunately for some, the good part is the reading only. There are plenty of videos with victim statements, from short news reports to e.g. 50 mins long documentary 'Rwanda: The Silence of Words' (by, whole doc is on their YouTube channel). It covers an abuse by the French soldiers, described first-hand. Three women filed a complaint with the French courts in 2004 and 2012. The investigation was at a standstill at the time of video upload (May 2022). I'd stay that there's much of artistic rather than informative parts, but country's landscapes are worth it, and these informative part show the emotions pretty well. You can see them clearly looking at the interviewed women.

First, a photo.

The decomposing bodies of a woman and girl, victims of the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.

… if you looked, you could see the evidence, even in the whitened skeletons. The legs bent and apart. A broken bottle, a rough branch, even a knife between them. Where the bodies were fresh, we saw what must have been semen pooled on and near the dead women and girls. There was always a lot of blood. Some male corpses had their genitals cut off, but many women and young girls had their breasts chopped off and their genitals crudely cut apart. They died in a position of total vulnerability, flat on their backs, with their legs bent and knees wide apart. It was the expressions on their dead faces that assaulted me the most, a frieze of shock, pain and humiliation. For many years after I came back home, I banished the memories of those faces from my mind, but they have come back, all too clearly.” (Excerpted from Shake Hands with the Devil, by Lt Gen Roméo Dallaire, Force Commander of the United Nations Assistance Mission to Rwanda, 1993-1994.) [Image: Mariella Furrer]

Here's a really long (nearly 140 pages) report from 2007 on rape during the wartime or other conflicts; Ctrl+F recommended for these interested. It does refer to various situations, including e.g. peacekeeping missions when there's civil unrest, but not war (like in Haiti). It also describes other acts of violence on civilians, there are also photos either of the victims interviewed or various injuries and scars. There's a high variety of both the events described and the victims, i.e. their social position, gender and age. Keep this in mind if you'd like to browse, but have some specific trigger.

A few pieces of information from this report (I didn't search for updated or more correct data).

  1. During a 1999 survey, 39% of interviewed Rwandan women reported being raped, and 72% said they know someone who was raped.

  2. The exact numbers are unknown and estimates vary highly, from 15,700 to around 500,000 victims of rape. (for the comparison, UN states it's roughly 150,000 to 250,000)

  3. Only 6% of surveyed women reported seeking a medical treatment after the rape.

  4. In a study done on more than 1,000 widows, roughly 67% of the rape victims were HIV-positive.

  5. According to the Africa Rights, a human rights organization based in the United Kingdom, the situation among the Rwandan women was a prime example of 'genocidal rape' - with underlying intentions, considering how big percentage of raped women turned out to be HIV-positive.

Here's the quote, below - screenshot of one of the stories (mind that children are among the victims). DRC isn't irrelevant to the topic, considering not just refugees, but also some militants fleeing there after the Rwandan genocide.

Since the 1996 outbreak of hostilities among multiple armed factions in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), atrocities against women have been so horrific and extensive that the violence has been referred to colloquially as the “war within a war” and the “war against women.”

Here's the last quote with the recollection of the events. Check linked report for more.

In research from 2005 in South Kivu, 492 women – 79 percent of whom had been sexually assaulted by between two and 20 attackers – shared their experiences of rape, mutilation and torture. One incident was related by a woman who was still confined to a hospital bed

A few moments after the Interhamwe [Rwandan militia] arrived in the village, I heard my neighbour screaming. I looked out of the window and I saw some men, all holding rifles. Immediately, I wanted to run away and hide but three of them turned up at our house. My husband pretended to be asleep…they grabbed me roughly. One of them restrained me, while another took my pili pili pestle and pushed it several times into my vagina, as if he was pounding. This agony seemed to be a never-ending hell. [...] then they suddenly left. For two weeks my vagina was discharging. I was operated on …I have to relieve myself into a bag tied to an opening in the side of my belly. They also killed my husband and my son.

Here's an 8 mins long video, 'Rwanda was first to prosecute mass rape as war crime'., being a comment to then newly released documentary 'The Uncondemned'.

⠀SOURCES :marseysalutepride: Map and some info. Quotes on the preparations and propaganda. More on warning signs ignored. Same. Map from here. Description of the Dutch documentary, for these interested. On cholera outbreak and other diseases among the refugees.

EFFORTPOST [Writeup][IRA] Operation Flavius and the Gibraltar 3

The Gibraltar Three and Operation Flavius

On March 6, 1988, around 3:45 p.m., shots were heard in otherwise tranquil Gibraltar. As passersby turned in alarm towards the shots, three people collapsed, riddled with bullets.

They were Mairéad Farrell, 31, Daniel McCann, 31, and Seán Sabhaois (Savage), 23, who were to become known as the "Gibraltar Three."

Mairéad Farrell, Seán Sabhaois (Savage), Daniel McCann

All three were long-standing members of the Provisional IRA. Farrell was incarcerated in the notorious Armagh Prison until 1986, where she assumed leadership of the female Provos held there as an officer and participated in the 1981 hunger strikes.

Savage, McCann, and Farrell were tasked with carrying out an operation in the British Overseas Territory. During the "Changing of the Guards" ceremony outside the Convent (the Governor's residence), a car bomb was to be detonated to cause maximum damage and to demonstrate that England was not immune to IRA actions even overseas.

Parking Spot where the rigged Car was supposed to be parked, and the Convent of Gibraltar

The planning began as early as 1987, and unfortunately, the British Secret Service (MI-5) quickly caught wind of the operation. For instance, some IRA members were exposed when they entered Spain from Belfast using false identities. Additionally, a supposed member of the Provos was observed multiple times attending the changing of the guards, presumably to note down a precise schedule.

Due to these events, Operation "Flavius" was initiated by the British government. To ensure that the changing of the guards would be the target of the (previously suspected) attack, the Governor suspended all ceremonies in December 1987 under the pretext of repainting the building. Upon resumption of the ceremonies and subsequent sightings of supposed IRA members, the British Secret Service was confident in locating the site of the attack.

During the renovation period, McCann, Farrell, and Savage traveled to Malaga (approximately 140km from Gibraltar) and each rented a vehicle. Their activities were continuously monitored, and by early March, British authorities were convinced that an attack was imminent.

Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher subsequently approved a special operation by the British SAS, which immediately commenced training suitable intervention techniques. Meanwhile, Gibraltar authorities searched for a location to arrest the suspected Provos.

The plan was as follows: The SAS would assist Gibraltar authorities in the arrest after confirmation from the intelligence service (which had been in Gibraltar for weeks) that a vehicle had been parked outside the Convent and that McCann, Farrell, and Savage had left the scene.

On March 6, around 12:45 p.m., Savage managed to enter Gibraltar unnoticed in his rented Renault A5. However, he was spotted there by a member of MI-5 but not fully identified, which took more than 1½ hours. Meanwhile, Savage was able to park the car in the parking lot in front of the Convent, which was used as a gathering place for the guards just before the ceremony.

At 2:30 p.m., McCann and Farrell were spotted crossing the Spanish border and were further observed. Savage, McCann, and Farrell met at 2:50 p.m. in the parking lot. Shortly after, the three left the location and walked together towards the city center.

After the three left the parking lot, a SAS soldier (an explosives expert) was tasked with inspecting the vehicle for explosives. He returned after a few minutes and reported that the car was to be considered suspicious. He was so certain that four additional SAS soldiers were ordered to their positions to intercept the suspected attackers.

Joseph Canepa, the police chief of Gibraltar, who had been in charge of the operation until that point, transferred responsibility to the SAS supervisor at 3:40 p.m. to carry out the arrest. Just 2 minutes later, the soldiers (who were dressed in civilian clothing) were ordered to carry out the operation. As they approached the three Irish individuals, they were noticed, and Savage, McCann, and Farrell attempted to flee. In the process, Savage separated from the others.

While two soldiers focused on Savage, the other two pursued McCann and Farrell. A police siren, wailing in the direction of Farrell and McCann's escape, caused them to pause briefly and glance towards their pursuers. One of the soldiers reached for his service weapon and reportedly attempted to persuade both to surrender. However, McCann allegedly reached into his jacket pocket. Taking this action as a sign that McCann was reaching for the remote control for the explosive device, the soldier shot McCann in the back. As Farrell also made "suspicious movements," she was hit by a bullet in the back from the soldier. To be sure, he fired three more shots at McCann (twice in the back and once in the head). Soldier 2, drawing "similar conclusions," did the same, firing twice at Farrell, twice at McCann, and three more times at Farrell. Both were hit exclusively in the back and back of the head.

At the same time, about 91 meters away, Savage's pursuers heard gunshots. Savage turned around, and according to the soldiers' accounts, reached into his jacket pocket. Believing it could be the remote control for the explosive device, they opened fire. Savage was struck by 15 bullets and collapsed on the spot.

Here died Sean

At this point, Farrell and McCann died. The operation lasted less than 25 minutes. None of the three survived the "arrest."

Immediately after the operation, surrounding buildings near the vehicle were evacuated, and explosives experts began defusing the situation. Four hours later, successful defusing was reported.

The bodies of the three Irish individuals were searched, but nothing was found except three vehicle keys. They were unarmed. However, one of the keys led authorities to a red Ford Fiesta in Marbella, where approximately 64KG of Semtex along with 2 detonators were found.

British authorities issued a press release on the same day, confirming the operation in Gibraltar. They spoke of defusing 250KG of Semtex in the parking lot.

The IRA later released a statement confirming the active service of Savage, McCann, and Farrell, but claimed that only 64KG of explosives were involved, the same amount later found in the red Ford Fiesta.

It later emerged that there had been no explosives in the white Renault at any time, and the English authorities knowingly issued a false report.

The events of that day led to the "Corporals Killings" and the "Milltown Cemetery Attack" a few days later.

If this was of any interest of you, I'm happy to do a writeup about those two incidents as well..

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The Otero family:

Shirley Vian:

Marine Hedge:

Vicki Wegerle:

Dennis Rader describes Vicki Wegerle's murder

WICHITA, Kansas -- Judge Gregory Waller: Sir in Count 9 it is claimed, on or about the 16th of September 1986, in Sedgwick County, Kansas, that you unlawfully killed a human being, Vicki Wegerle, maliciously, willfully, deliberately and with premeditation by strangulation, inflicting injuries from which said Vicki Wegerle did die on September 16th 1986. Can you tell me what you did here in Sedgwick County on that day that makes you believe you are guilty?

Dennis Rader: Yes. Again, Vicki Wegerle was a potential victim. I went through those different phases, locked in on her as I would call it and decided that I would try that date. I used a ruse as a telephone repairman to get in her house. [I] drove there in my own personal car around lunch time having lunch hour or approximately that time. It was earlier in the morning then. And uh put my.. I actually went somewhere else and changed uh, changed my clothes into what I call my 'hit clothes.' And um...

Judge: Hit Clothes?

Rader: Hit Clothes. Basically different, you know, things I need to get rid of later. Not the same kind of clothes I had on. I don't know a better word to use it -- crime clothes or hit clothes -- I just call them hit clothes. Uhh, anyway I walked from my car as a telephone repairman. As I walked there I donned my telephone helmet. I had a briefcase. Went to one other address just to kind of size up the house. I'd walked by it a couple of times but I wanted to check it a little bit more. As I approached it I could hear a piano sound. I went to this other door, knocked on it and told them that we were recently working on telephone repairs in the area. And then went to her and knocked on the door and asked if I could check her telephone lines inside.

Judge: Did she allow you in?

Rader: Yes she did.

Judge: What happened then?

Rader: Uhh, went over and found out where the telephone was, simulated that I was checking the telephone. I had a make believe instrument and after she was looking away I drew a pistol at her asked her if she would go back to the bedroom with me.

Judge: Is this the same .357 Magnum you'd used earlier?

Rader: No, this was a different one.

Judge: A different pistol?

Rader: Nods

Judge: Alright, you asked her to go back to the bedroom with you after drawing the pistol on her?

Rader: Yes, Sir.

Judge: What happened then?

Rader: I told her, when we went back to the bedroom, I told her I was going to have to tie her up. She was very upset. And I think we, I, used some material that was in, and that's another thing, I'm not sure but I that I used the material that they had in their bedroom, and after I tied her hands she broke that and we started fighting. And we fought quite a bit, back and forth.

Judge: She was physically fighting you?

Rader: Oh yeah, yes sir.

Judge: What happened then?

Rader: I finally got the hand on her and got a nylon sock and started strangling her.

Judge: So you wrapped the stocking around her neck?

Rader: Nods Yes.

Judge: So what happened then?

Rader: finally gained on her and put her down and I thought she was dead but apparently she wasn't. But, uh, after she was down and not moving any more I rearranged her clothes a little bit and took some quick photos -- I think three of them if I remember. And then after that there was a lot of commotion. She had mentioned something about her husband coming home so I got out of there pretty quick. The dogs were raising a lot of cain in the back. The doors and windows were all open in the house. There was a lot of noise when we were fighting so I left pretty quickly after that. Put everything the briefcase and had her, I already gone through her purse and got the keys to the car, and used her car for my get away car.

Judge: Alright, you indicated that you thought that she was dead. Did you assume later that she was not dead.

Rader: Yes. I guess the paramedics arrived and they tried to attempt to relieve her, revive her, and that failed. I don't know if she died there or on the way to the hospital or at the hospital. I don't recollect.

Judge: But you later found out that she did die as a result of your strangulation.

Rader: Yes.

Dolores Davis:

Rader: I really had a commitment that I needed to go to so I moved her to one spot, took her out of her car -- this gets complicated -- then the stuff I had – clothes, gun, whatever – I took that to another spot in her car, dumped that off (closes eyes like trying to remember). Okay, then took her car back to her house, umm, left that. Let me think. Okay, in the interim I realized I had lost one of my guns -- I dropped it somewhere -- so I was distraught trying to figure out where my gun was. So I went back into the house and realized I had dropped it when I went in, when I had broke the plate-glass window, it dropped and fell on the floor right there and I found it right there so that solved that problem. Anyway, I went back out, threw the keys, checked the car real quick like, threw the keys up on top of the roof of her house, walked from her car back to my car. Took my car, drove it back and I either dropped more stuff off or picked her up and put 'em in my car and then I drove up northeast of Sedgwick County and dropped her off underneath a bridge.


Scenes of al-Qassam Mujahideen clashing with enemy vehicles and soldiers in the areas of the city of Khan Yunis, south of the Gaza Strip

0:10 transcript:

"The enemy thinks that it kills civilians because we are present among civilians. No actually, we, as fighters, are in an area completely devoid of civilians. This despicable enemy has no power against us as men in the battlefield, the battlefield which [the enemy] specified its location, and the field from which they commanded people to evacuate. And the people did evacuate. And we came for [the enemy] in the place that they evacuated.

But this cowardly and criminal enemy goes and kills our children in their homes— their safe homes—our wives, our women, our children, and the children of the people, the children of the society. They kill them with F-16s and grill their flesh. They bully women and the elderly and civilians in their homes, their safe homes.

However, we as fighters are here in the battlefield. Come. Let us show you how to deal with men, by Allah's will.

This enemy lies. And it deceives people by claiming that it bombs homes to kill Hamas leaders and al-Qassam fighters. al-Qassam fighters, here they are, all of them are in their advanced combat readiness, awaiting the enemy in the places that the enemy commanded the evacuation of."

1:27 - The commander of the 630th Reserve Battalion, a deputy commander, and a soldier were killed in the operation

1:30 transcript:

"Death is coming for you." "Wait a bit. They are going back and forth." "Here are two behind him." "Let Netanyahu get burned"

2:11 - Enemy deaths resulting from engagement from close range

2:45 transcript:

"My magazine ran out, let's go. I clashed with him."

2:52 transcript:

"By Allah's grace this is after waiting more than 100 days."

"Be careful, they are gathering together."

"Let the one behind approach a bit so they can entertain each other in hell."

"The one in the back went to the tank 4 times, and this guy can't even get into a room."

"Depend on Allah. In the name of Allah. Strike."

3:29 transcript:

"If this enemy thinks that they can dismantle Hamas, they are delusional. In front of him is a lot if they want to be able to dismantle Hamas. By Allah's will, we will dismantle their vehicles in a little while and leave them as screws before they think that they can dismantle the capabilities of the al-Qassam Brigades. Because the al-Qassam Brigades and the Hamas movement are not satanic plantings on this earth; they are plantings from the heart of this earth, from the heart of this people.

Hamas represents the aspirations of thousands from the Palestinian masses and millions from the masses of the Arab and Islamic nation. And all that [the enemy] strives for is an illusion and a mirage.

Allah willing, this army will be defeated. They will know after this battle ends that they were searching for a mirage, and that this land knows its men, knows its loved ones, and knows those who fight on its behalf."

4:46 transcript:

"al-Qassam is an idea and will not end, by Allah's will. Our fighters are still safe and secure. We ask Allah Almighty for acceptance, and we call on our dear and beloved people, who we sacrifice our souls and blood for and who is suffering these pains—the enemy wants people to think that these pains are because of the resistance.

These pains are because of the occupation. And the resistance is the remedy to the occupation, not a reason for suffering, no matter how much the enemy tries to iron out our consciousness and the consciousness of our people. The masses of our people are our fathers, our brothers, our wives, our uncles, our aunts; they are all our children and all with us, and their hearts salute us.

We ask Allah for acceptance and good aim, and peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings."

First al-Qassam Brigades statement regarding the bombing of the 3 630th Battalion members:

"After their return from the battle lines, our Mujahideen confirmed the bombing of a house that had been previously booby-trapped containing a Zionist foot force, leaving its members dead and wounded in the al-Satar area, north of the city of Khan Yunis, south of the Gaza Strip"

Conflict: 2023-2024 Israel-Gaza War

Location: Khan Yunis, Gaza, Palestine

Casualties: Exact number unknown, 5 visual deaths appear in the video and at least 3 were killed as admitted by IDF and Israeli media reports. The al-Qassam Brigades does not claim a higher amount

All 3 admitted were members of the Zionist 630th Reserve Battalion, killed in a blast from the Television 3 explosive device

From left to right: Maj. (res.) Yair Cohen, 30, an acting company commander in the Gaza Division's Southern Brigade's 630th Battalion, from Ramat Gan

Sgt. First Class (res.) Ziv Chen, 27, of the Gaza Division's Southern Brigade's 630th Battalion, from Kfar Saba

Lt. Col. (res.) Netanel Yaacov Elkouby, 36, the commander of the Gaza Division's Southern Brigade's 630th Battalion, from Haifa

Perpetrator: Shaheed Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades (military wing of Hamas)


CHILD WARNING EFFORTPOST Josef fritzl And His Basement Of Horror

A man who imprisoned his own daughter in the basement for 24 years and had 7 children with her. Josef Fritzl was born in Amstetten, Austria, on April 9, 1935. At the time, Austria was under the control of Nazi Germany. His father abandoned the family when he was four years old and later died in the war, leaving him to be raised by his mother, who often beat him severely. Later in life, he was very strict and disciplined. At the age of 21, he married a woman named Rosemarie, who was four years younger than him and worked as a kitchen helper. At some unknown point, he graduated from a technical college with a qualification in electrical engineering and worked at Voestalpine, an Austria-based steel company. For a while, he worked in mail-order lingerie, but gave up on it in 1972 and bought an inn and campsite near Salzburg.

Josef and Rosemarie had seven children together, including two sons and five daughters, including Elisabeth, whom he reportedly started sexually abusing as early as 1977, when she was 11 years old.

Tired of getting raped and beaten, Elisabeth would run away from home a few times. On January 1983 she ran away from home and went into hiding in Vienna with a friend from work. She was found by police within three weeks and returned to her parents. Josef developed a plan to make sure that she could never escape again. He planned to keep her imprisoned in their basement, so that she could never escape again.

On 28 August 1984, after Elisabeth turned 18, Fritzl lured her into the basement of the family home, saying that he needed help carrying a door. In reality, Fritzl had been converting the basement into a makeshift prison chamber, the door was the last thing he needed to seal it. After Elisabeth held the door in place while Fritzl fitted it into the frame, he held an ether-soaked towel on her face until she was unconscious, then threw her into the chamber.

After Elisabeth's disappearance, Rosemarie, Elisabeth's mother filed a missing persons report. Almost a month later, Fritzl handed over a letter to the police, the first of several that he had forced Elisabeth to write while she was in captivity. The letter, stated that she was tired of living with her family and was staying with a friend. She warned her parents not to look for her or she would leave the country. Fritzl told police that she had most likely joined a cult. Elizabeth turned 18, so there was nothing the police could do about runaway complaints. Josef made her believe that poisonous gas would be pumped in the room if she tried to escape and that she would get electrified if she would open the door.

Basement where Elizabeth was imprisoned for 24 years.

Everyone believed that Elizabeth ran away and had joined a cult, but in reality she was living under their feet in the basement of the family home. Over the next 24 years the horror for Elisabeth was unrelenting, the cold, the damp, the rats, which she was sometimes forced to catch with her bare hands, the water that ran off the walls in such large quantities she had to use towels to soak it up. Summer, when the place turned into an intolerable sweaty sauna, was the worst time of year.

Over the 24 years that he had her imprisoned, Fritzl often raped his daughter, and she had seven children with him. One of the children, a twin called Michael, died shortly after his birth in the cellar in 1996. He had severe breathing difficulties and expired in his mother's arms when he was just 66 hours old.

Fritzl admitted he subsequently burned the baby's body in an incinerator. He sexually abused and raped her sometimes several times a day. Often the kids had to watch the abuse as they grew older.

The house at Ybbsstrasse 40 in Amstetten, Austria, where Josef Fritzl imprisoned his daughter Elisabeth Fritzl in a basement prison. The police eventually found out about his crimes when one of the children became very sick and he took her to the hospital. On 19 April 2008, Elisabeth's eldest daughter fell unconscious and Fritzl agreed to seek medical attention. Elisabeth helped him carry Kerstin out of the chamber and saw the outside world for the first time in 24 years. He forced Elisabeth to return to the chamber, where she remained for a final week. Kerstin was taken by ambulance to a local hospital, the Landesklinikum Amstetten, and was admitted in serious condition with life-threatening kidney failure. Fritzl later arrived at the hospital claiming to have found a note written by Kerstin's mother. He discussed Kerstin's condition and the note with a doctor, Albert Reiter.

Medical staff found aspects of Fritzl's story puzzling and alerted the police on 21 April. The police broadcast an appeal on public media for the missing mother to come forward and provide information about Kerstin's medical history. The police reopened the case file on Elisabeth's disappearance. Fritzl repeated his story about Elisabeth being in a cult, and presented what he claimed was the most recent letter from her, dated January 2008, posted from the town of Kematen. The police contacted Manfred Wohlfahrt, a church officer and expert on cults, who raised doubts about the existence of the group Fritzl described. He noted that Elisabeth's letters seemed dictated and oddly written.

Elisabeth pleaded with Fritzl to be taken to the hospital. On 26 April, he released her from the cellar along with her sons Stefan and Felix, bringing them upstairs. He and Elisabeth went to the hospital where Kerstin was being treated on 26 April 2008. Following a tip-off from Dr. Reiter that Fritzl and Elisabeth were at the hospital, the police detained them on the hospital grounds and took them to a police station for questioning.

Elisabeth did not provide police with more details until they promised her that she would never have to see her father again. Over the next two hours, she told the story of her 24 years in captivity. Elisabeth recounted that Fritzl raped her and forced her to watch pornographic videos, which he made her re-enact with him in front of her children in order to humiliate her. Shortly after midnight, police officers completed the investigation. Fritzl, aged 73, was arrested on 26 April 2008 on suspicion of serious crimes against family members.

During the night of 27 April, Elisabeth, her children and her mother Rosemarie were taken into care. Police said Fritzl told investigators how to enter the basement chamber through a small hidden door, opened by a secret keyless entry code. Rosemarie had been unaware of what had been happening to Elisabeth.

On 29 April, it was announced that DNA evidence confirmed Fritzl as the biological father of his daughter's children. His defence lawyer, Rudolf Mayer, said that although the DNA test proved incest, evidence was still needed for the allegations of rape and enslavement. Arrest trial of Josef Fritzl march 16, 2009

He was sentenced to life imprisonment for incest, rape, coercion, false imprisonment, enslavement and for the negligent homicide of one of his infant sons. The basement where Elisabeth was held has since been filled in by the Austrian authorities to prevent other perverts from worshipping it as a shrine. Elisabeth was given a new name following Josef's trial, which saw strict laws introduced to prevent her identity from being revealed. Since then, Austrian authorities and residents have made great efforts to protect the family's privacy. Elisabeth Fritzl and her children all have new identities now, and their exact whereabouts remain a mystery.

In May 2017, Josef Fritzl changed his name to Josef Mayrhoff, probably due to getting into a prison fight that resulted in several of his teeth getting knocked out after other inmates set up a fake dating profile with his name and picture.

Mark Perry, a British journalist who interviewed Fritzl in his cell, says he has shown no remorse for his crimes. He recalls he kept saying "just look into the cellars of other people, you might find other families and girls down there. In April 2019, it was reported that Fritzl's health was declining and that he did not want to live anymore.

In September 2021, a decision was made to release Fritzl from a psychiatric detention facility to a regular prison, where he was to continue to serve his life sentence. That decision was based on a psychiatric report which said he no longer posed any danger. The ruling was appealed and overturned in November 2021, and the Regional Court of Krems was ordered to reconsider the case. In late-April 2022, a panel of three judges decided that Josef Fritzl could be moved. The decision was based on a supplementary psychiatric report submitted in March. However, the court ruled that he would remain in the psychiatric facility until an appeal to the Higher Regional Court in Vienna was heard. The move to a regular prison would mean that Fritzl, who received a life sentence, was eligible for parole in 2023, having served the initial 15 years of his sentence. In January 2024, Fritzl applied to Krems regional court for release from prison into a nursing home, but the application was rejected.

On January 25, 2024, the Higher Regional Court approved Fritzl's move to a regular prison, amid reports that he was suffering from dementia. Within a week, prosecutors had filed a complaint seeking to overturn the decision in a higher court. If Fritzl is moved to a regular prison, he will be eligible for parole in 2025.

Incest monster Josef Fritzl was close to tears

after being granted conditional release from a prison for the mentally ill by an Austrian court, shortly after being pictured outside jail for the first time in 15 years.

A panel of judges in Krems ruled that the 88 year old would be transferred from the prison for the mentally abnormal to a normal cell, paving the way for his permanent release.


I Hope this guy never gets released. I Hope you enjoyed it. I will end it with the best documentary about Josef Fritzl. Thanks for reading👍

EFFORTPOST Abu Ghraib - slightly down the rabbit hole... and other ones :marseytroublemaker: [few vids, few pics, more text]

Abu Ghraib prisoners abuse sounds a bit worn-off topic. Actually, I don't think that 'everyone heard about it' means 'this is boring stuff'. Post is chaotic [edits will come], but the case is a politically complicated wild mix of chaotic events. Apparently, political scandal is just important and boring. People there either were having fun with prisoners, were tricking others into it or being tricked, some got into affair, one kid was conceived, and one dog handler found a way to make his doggo involved in some indecent acts.


Map that appeared in WikiLeaks in 2007:

Here how it looks like on satellite imagery:


Context. First coalition war against Iraqi begun at 16th of January 1991. Between 1991 and 2003, country suffered under international sanctions. Soldiers coming to Abu Ghraib weren't well informed. Some mentioned their disgust or shock after seeing ongoing practices for the first time. In general, they had also no experience with far more 'normal' military service. Former interrogator was interviewed, and shared similar experience:

[On his first impressions of Abu Ghraib prison] I think it was difficult to be surprised, because there were so few expectations about what we were getting into. None of us had been to war. There were a few — some of the older gentlemen — may have seen action in the first Gulf War, but on a very limited basis. We certainly had never done anything like staff a large-scale prison in the middle of a combat zone.

This is from unrelated article.

While the International Committee of the Red Cross report from February 2004 cited military intelligence officers as estimating that "between 70 to 90 percent of persons deprived of their liberty in Iraq had been arrested by mistake," much remains unknown about the detainees abused in the "hard site" where the Army housed violent and dangerous detainees and where much of the abuse took place.

Descriptions of abuse ongoing in Abu Ghraib were published before the photos, gaining little attention. Amnesty International mentioned is as a place of torture and mass executions in June 2003 report. In November 2003, Associated Press published article with former detainees' memories included. One was detainee himself, but as did his father in 1995 - under Saddam Hussein regime. He claimed that Americans weren't as brutal. Other appreciated that at least some of U.S. guards seemed to be good people, differently from regime supporters. Still, physical and emotional abuse was present.

For the third brother, however, the bitterness is too fresh.

"They confined us like sheep," the newly freed Saad Naif, 38, said of the Americans. "They hit people. They humiliated people."

Although details cannot be otherwise confirmed, the accounts by a half dozen former detainees in Associated Press interviews corroborated each other on key points, and meshed with what Amnesty International has heard from released Iraqis. The human rights group has accounts of detainee uprisings, punishment by exposure to the sun, and other examples of what it calls "inhumane conditions."

Claims of these abuse and the worse one could be confirmed two months later. On 13th of January 2004, Spc. Joseph Darby handed over photos depictitng torture to Army's Criminal Investigation Command (CID). Day later investigation started. Scandal broke after CBS News aired photos on 28th of April 2004 in program 60 minutes.

⠀TIMELINE :marseynotesglow:

For more detailed timeline go here: (from May 2003 to September 2005). It includes background events relating to other Iraqi prisoners abuse by US Army soldiers (e.g. Camp Bucca, Camp Cropper). Shorter version, skipping these events and daily dates:

July 2003: Amnesty International criticized U.S. military for subjecting Iraqi prisoners to cruel, inhumane or degrading conditions

August 2003: coalition forces reopened Abu Ghraib prison

October 2003: month during which most of abuse happened

November 2003: some detainees escaped (at first - two, then - several), there was also riot ending up in 12 detainee shot (3 lethally)

December 2003: detainee shot after assaulting MP

January 2004: soldier from 372nd MP Company reports prisoner abuse, investigation started

March 2004: charges filed against 6 soldiers

April 2004: some photos released to the public by CBS

May 2004: intense period; this month 578 prisoners were released (454, then 24 three days later), charges filed for 7th soldier, first convictions and suspensions take place.

June 2004: drama over torture, interrogation and what's justifable or not intensifies

Convictions are dated in separate section.


There were videos obtained previously by Washington Post. One they publicly released is the vid no. 4 you'll see below. Criminal Investigation Command (CID) materials were shown online in series of articles 'Abu Ghraib Files' (link at the end) - lots of info accompanying 279 photographs and 19 videos. All clips have no sound. Length varies from 0:08 to 1:39, I merged them by the topic.

Videos 1 and 2: naked, hooded detainees forced to masturbate. Video taken by Charles A. Graner. He got highest sentence, so more on him at next sections. Apart from forcing prisoners to masturbate and photo or record them, he also e.g. forced two of them to simulate oral sex.

Videos 3 and 4: three soldiers surrounding a detainee, likely striking him and attempting to subdue; then targeting group of three naked detainees.

Videos 5 to 8: soldiers provide medical attention to wounded detainee. That was also shown on photographs.

Videos 9 to 19: detainee hitting his head against a cell door. It was also depicted on photos. Some backstory:

In addition to "high value" intelligence targets, accused rioters and rapists, the military police at Abu Ghraib had to manage some mentally disturbed inmates, who had no apparent ties to any national security concern. The most prominent of these was a detainee named M-----, who was referred to by U.S. prison personnel as "Shitboy." Over the course of five weeks, he was photographed dozens of times in various humiliating and self-destructive situations. At several points, soldiers chose simply to take photographs and video of M----- harming himself, instead of stepping in to stop him. When the detainee was in restraints, Graner posed for photographs alongside him like a big-game hunter displaying a catch.

And more (no idea why it's apparently OK to not prevent man with mental disorder from harming himself and don't provide him help):

A July 2004 report by the Army's Criminal Investigation Command (CID) concluded that the horrors depicted in these photos did not involve criminal acts by guards. This includes incidents in which the detainee sodomized himself with a banana, covered himself with his own feces, and banged his head repeatedly against a steel door until his head was bloody. At several points, military police claimed they put this detainee in restraints allegedly to "prevent the detainee from sodomizing himself and assaulting himself and others with his bodily fluids," [...]

In his April 2005 statement to the CID, Graner describes several efforts by military police to control this detainee. At one point, Graner said he even injected M----- and another mentally deranged detainee with Benadryl to calm them down: "All our nut cases, we were just feeding them Benadryl because we had the psychotropic medications, but nobody would issue [them], which would have made life a lot easier for us."

Graner said he believed that military intelligence had a psychiatrist at Abu Ghraib. But, Graner added, "he couldn't help us out."

Here's link to really detailed descriptions accompanied by photos. Everything accurately dated (if possible) and described:


Eleven soldiers were convicted. Some of them were interviewed or longer articles are available about them, and I included tl;dr conclusions. Order is partially random. I've quoted more on Graner and on Herman because this is too wild to be omitted. Links for these enjoying further reading.

1st. Charles Graner: sentenced to 10 years in military stockade on 15th of January 2005. Released after 6.5 years. He has known history of violent behavior and here's his bio In Abu Ghraib, he was leader of ongoing abuse and IMO looks like he was the most 'organized' person in its form. He claimed abuse happened because of plan directed by military intelligence officers to soften up prisoners for interrogation, because they were told to terrorize prisoners etc. There were no witnesses to support these claims. Both him and his family seems to think he is the victim, convictions were unfair and his image was spoiled. This family part doesn't include ex-wife (10 years of marriage) claiming she was abused and so were their two kids, his Abu Ghraib ex-lover (next one here) and more.

More e.g. here: and

First photo is with Lynndie England, 2nd one on this list, second photo - with Sabrina Herman, 4rd on this list.

This one also deserves longer comment. Since the beginning of research for this post I was wondering if there was maybe any 'leader' (at least), and some others following without realizing full extent of abuse. It didn't seem like extreme, yet erratic behavior only. It is awful and varied, but clearly varied withing some aesthetic convention. Both when it comes to visual aspect, activities depicted and possible results (feelings on detainees' side) - like it was showing someone's preferences. As expected, I like own opinions being confirmed. Partially, at least. Graner's family and Graner himself seem to be in a strong disagreement with reality. Prosecutors considered him being a 'leader' there, and activities depicted - being for sports and for laugh. Graner claimed they were told to soften up or terrorize detainees and he didn't enjoy it. All the laughs, a bit of humour, thumbs up etc. were because of it was so screwed they couldn't go through it without some distancing and humour. I thought about the photos, if there weren't there to re-enact these feelings. It wasn't stated anywhere that Graner was also ordered to take photos. Fellow soldiers reported discouraging him.

Here's some quote from the book Evil in Mind: psychology of harming others. I recommend it if you'd like to get some unpopular opinions justified (proper chapter in Dark Sides of Empathy is cool, too).

[...] hate is the desire for a target to experience harm. In the case of sadism, or sadistic motivation, target harm is desired because it is seen as a path toward positive emotional payoff. That is, one seeks either to make other beings (human or non- human) suffer, or to be assured of such suffering secondhand, in hopes of experiencing pleasure, satisfaction, arousal, etc., as a result. The sequence just outlined puts us in a good position to understand when it is, and when it is not, reasonable to infer sadistic motivation: The desired/ anticipated outcome, not the actual outcome, is key.

[comment on a study] Whichever, the fact that “joking violence” was more readily embraced as plausible by victims who were highly committed to their relationship suggests that they were trying to deflect harmful intentions away from their abusive partners.

Why I even quote this? First, because people sometimes don't get definitions right when it comes to motivations. Second, because of Staci Graner Morris who was married to Graner for 10 years:

The two divorced in 2000. She obtained a protection-from-abuse order in 2001, after claiming that Graner had tried to throw her down the stairs following a heated argument.

Another one:

Later in their relationship, she obtained three court protective orders to prevent abuses such as when he held a knife to his sleeping wife.

She described how he was a POS both to her and kids (and also could be unusually charismatic and engaging). Confirmed that he was sexually deviated, and activities depicted in the Abu Ghraib files didn't surprise her as Graner was obsessed with this stuff. He once told her about cutting her body up and getting rid of it. Also installed surveillance camera in her room, showing her after some time a tape depicting her preparing for bed. She felt like he enjoys seeing her terrorized. Graner also shared made-up stories about their sexual life to some guests. And returning to that re-enacting emotions:

He would send photos of "these beat-up prisoners and blood and talk about how cool it was - look what Daddy gets to do", she said, adding that she did not show them the mail. [...] "The whup ass [beatings] ran like a river," Ms Morris quoted Graner as saying about the frequent beatings of prisoners. "He had complete contempt for prisoners; as far as he was concerned they had no rights," she said, summing up his attitude as a prison officer in Pennsylvania.

There's more, seacrch for articles mentioning both abuse of ex-wife and affair with Lynndie England if interested. He also had a story of making weird photos.

2nd. Lynndie England: sentenced to 3 years with dishonorable discharge from the army on 27th of September 2005. During stay at Abu Ghraib, she got pregnant with Graner and it seems she re-thought their romance, turned out Graner - 14 years older than her - was manipulative POS. Her background is: grew up watching classic action movies sometimes depicting US Army in kinda heroic way, patriot, convinced she wants to be a soldier, entered army when 17 yo. Seems not fully convinced she wasn't forced to do what she did.

Interview e.g. here:

One of most recognizable faces in this scandal:

3rd. Jeremy Sivits: sentenced to one year in prison on 19th of May 2005. He claimed that many of soldiers working in Abu Ghraib, including himself, came from rural parts of USA when young people had not much perspectives. Enlisting in the army and being sent to Iraq seemed like an adventure for 18 yo man.

Claimed in BBC interview he hated himself for what happened.

4th. Sabrina Harman: convicted to 6 months at 18th of May 2005, received bad-conduct discharge. According to few other soldiers, she should rather be humanitarian aid worker, not a soldier. Didn't show abusive or sadistic tendencies. Type of girl that protects invertebrates sometimes, but also do crazy shit and looks overly enthusiastic on many photos. It applies to tortured soldiers or corpses, too.

Morbidly curious and that's crazy reading ( ).

“Even if somebody is hurt, the first thing I think about is taking photos of that injury,” Harman said. “Of course, I’m going to help them first, but the first reaction is to take a photo.” In July, she wrote to her father, “On June 23 I saw my first dead body I took pictures! The other day I heard my first grenade go off. Fun!”

And more:

The cat’s head was one of Harman’s gags. She had a kitten that was killed by a dog, and since it had no visible wounds she performed a rough autopsy, discovered organ damage, and then an M.P. buddy mummified its head. They gave it pebbles for eyes, and Sabrina photographed it in various inventive settings: on a bus seat with sunglasses, smoking a cigarette, wearing a tiny camouflage boonie hat, floating on a little pillow in the wading pool, with flowers behind its ears. She took more than ninety photographs and two videos of it. The series, in its weird obsessiveness and dark comedy, has the quality of conceptual art. At one time or another, at least fifteen of Harman’s fellow-M.P.s posed for photos with the cat head.

5th. Javal S. Davis: sentenced to 6 months on 4th of February 2005. Seems to have mixed feelings about the case, also ashamed, partially unable to tell why he even did it. In private considered good man. Claimed he wanted to scare these prisoners, not hurt at first. Also following orders or mates' encouragement. Received bad-conduct discharge. (

6th. Ivan Frederick II: sentenced to 8 years, received a dishonorable discharge; reduced in rank to private.

7th. Roman Krol: sentenced to 10 months, received a bad-conduct discharge; reduced in rank to private.

8th. Armin J. Cruz Jr.: sentenced to 8 months, received a bad-conduct discharge; reduced in rank to private.

9th. Megan Ambuhl: no prison sentence, but reduction in rank to private and the loss of half a month's pay for failing to prevent or report maltreatment of prisoners.

10th. Santos Cardona: sentenced to 90 days of hard labor at Ft. Bragg, N.C in May 2005. Killed in Afghanistan in 2009, working as a gov contractor there. One of dog handlers in Abu Ghraib having fun with threatening prisoners.

11th. Michael Smith: sentenced to 179 days in March 2006. Another dog handler having fun, not just scaring prisoners. He also was convicted of allowing the dog to participate in the lewd acts of licking peanut butter off of a woman's chest and a man's genitalia. All videotaped.

As it seems to be next-dimensional level, I'll just leave link to article about how conclusions made from it were oversimplified:

EFFORTPOST One of the deadliest infectious diseases: Tuberculosis.

Tuberculosis (for short: TB) is known to be one of the top 10 causes of death worldwide, and is in the list of the top 5 deadliest infectious diseases affecting all ages. Every year, about 10 million people fall ill with the disease, and about 1.5 million people die from it. TB is the leading cause of death of people with HIV and also a major contributer to antimicrobial resistance. Perhaps you may have heard about it before as it's quite common as its been reported in, but what exactly is tuberculosis and are there even ways to prevent, or cure it?

What is tuberculosis?:

Tuberculosis is a baceterial infection that mainly affects the lungs, and can be fatal without any treatment. Pulmonary tuberculosis (affects lungs) can be contagious and is according to the American Lung Association not quickly spread. Besides affecting the lungs, tuberculosis is also known to affect the bones, lymph nodes, vertebrae, and other parts of the body; those types of tyberculosis are not contagious and can be succesfully treated with the right medication and help.

What are the main causes of tuberculosis?:

Tuberculosis spreads when someone with active TB in their lungs coughs or sneezes, and someone else inhales the expelled droplets that contain TB bacteria.

To be infected, one would have to be in contact with it for an extended period.

Not everyone who has TB is contagious, even though the risk of TB is high in people who:

  • Live in, come from, or have spent time in a TB-infested country or region. (most commonly; Africa, Asia, Carribean, Eastern Europe, and Latin America)

  • Live in a crowded environment.

  • Have an immunosuppressing condition such as human immunodefiency virus.

  • Took chemotherapy and biological agent treatments that weaken the immune system.

  • Are in poor health or with a poor diet because of a bad lifestyle or other issues, such as drug abuse and alcoholism.

Symptoms of tuberculosis:

  • Persistent coughing and coughing up mucus (Mucus is made by the cells in your throat, mouth, nose and sinuses to protect, moisturize and trap potentially harmful particles. In this case it may appear as sticky and gelatinous.)

  • Night sweats

  • Weight loss

  • Loss of appetite

  • Fatigue/loss of energy

  • Fever

  • Difficulty breathing

The various types of tuberculosis & it's treatments:

1. Latent tuberculosis (LTB):

Latent TB is asymptomatic because the body's immune system keeps the infection at bay. Latent TB occurs when a person carries the bacteria but does not develop symptoms, however there is a chance that the latent infection will reactivate later in life when the body's immune defenses weaken, leading to active disease.

For latent TB are three treatment options:

  • Isoniazid (INH): This is the most common therapy for latent TB, you basically take an isoniazid antibiotic pill daily for 9 months.

  • Rifampin (Rifadin, Rimactane): This is an option if you have any side effects, or contraindictations in INH. You take this antibiotic each day for 4 months.

  • Isoniazid and Rifapentine: You take both of these antibiotics once a week for 3 months, under your doctor's supervision.

2. Active tuberculosis (aTB):

Active TB is a condition in which the bacteria are active and do cause symptoms. Active TB is divided into two types: pulmonary TB, and systemic TB. Although TB is primarily a lung disease (pulmonary TB), as mentioned in the beginning in the post, it can affect other systems aswell. Systemic TB occurs when active TB is present in other parts of the body. Active tuberculosis requires a combination of antibiotrics like:

  • Isoniazid

  • Rifampin

  • Pyrazinamide

  • Ethambutol

  • Rifabutin

  • Rifapentine

3. Disseminated or miliary tuberculosis (DTB/MTB):

Miliary TB is a rare form of active TB that occurs when TB bacteria enter the bloodstream. In this form, the bacteria quickly spread throughout the body in tiny nodules, affecting multiple organs at the same time; this type of tuberculosis can be fatal. Just like with the previous types of tuberculosis, DTB and MTB are treated with a combination of antibiotics, this gets done in multiple periods of time which can run up to 6-12 months.

Intensive phase (2 months):

  • Pyrazinamide

  • Isoniazid

  • Rifampin

  • Streptomycin or ethambutol

Continuation phase (4 months):

  • Isonaizid

  • Rifampin

4. Multidrug-resistant tumerculosis: (MDR-TB)

This type of TB is caused by bacteria that are resistant to at least two of the most commonly used and potent anti-TB drugs, like:

  • Isoniazid

  • Rifampicin

  • Pyrazinamide

  • Ethambutol

  • Streptomycin

5. Extensively drug-resistant tuberculosis (XDR-TB):

This is a rare form of TB in which the bacteria are resistant to more than two anti-TB drugs. This type of TB can be cured, but with the current drugs available, the likelihood of success is much smaller than in patients with ordinary TB or even MDR-TB.

Besides antibiotics, its also advertised to stay home during the first weeks of treatment, until you're no longer contagious. Which means you should avoid public places and people with weakened immune systems, like young children, the elderly, and people with HIV. Just like with COVID-19, you'll have to wear a special mask if you have visitors, or need to go to the doctor's office.

The effects of untreated tuberculosis:

As mentioned above, tuberculosis can be succesfully treated with the right treatment and help, but what if a person who has tuberculosis would not get any treatment and let it worsen?

Untreated and worsened tuberculosis can cause:

  • Miliary or disseminated tuberculosis

  • Fluids, air, or pus in the lungs

  • Acute respiratory distress syndrome or fluid buildup in the lungs

  • Paraplegia or paralysis of the lower body due to tuberculosis of the spine

  • Tuberculosis arthritis (joint inflammation) of the hips or knees

  • Infertility in men and women

  • Seizures and growth retardation

  • Multidrug-resistant/extensively drug-resistant tuberculosis

The final cause may be either multiple organ failure or internal haemorrhage (bleeding) in the lungs, which may happen when the advancing destruction erodes into an artery; this will most likely result into death.

How to prevent tuberculosis?:

There are multiple ways to prevent tuberculosis. By keeping the various mentioned main causes in mind and trying to avoid them, you most likely will be safe, but there's more. For children there's a vaccin available; BCG (bacille Calmette-Guerin) which is legalized in Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom, & the United States. In countries or regions where tuberculosis is common, one dose is recommended in healthy newborn babies as soon after birth as possible. In countries or regions where tuberculosis isn't as common, only children at high risk are typically immunized. Among children, the vaccine prevents about 20% from getting infected and among those who do get infected, it protects half from developing disease.




Sept. 18, 2001

Hi Clayt - I'm taking your advice and writing down what I remember from last Tuesday, although I doubt that what I have to say will be of much interest to anyone. The simple fact is that I was oblivious to what was going on, from beginning to end. Actually, that's probably what kept me alive, because if I knew what a terrible mess I was in, I probably would have dropped dead on the spot. ("Don't shoot, Davy, I'm coming down.")

Our office was on the 74th floor of WTC 1, (The North Tower) which was the first to get hit. My cubicle was in the south-west corner, with a beautiful view of the Statue of Liberty and the Hudson River. I was working on the computer when there was a big "boom" and the building shook, probably a foot or so where I sat. Next came a strange sound like hail hitting a window, but with some additional scratchy noises, while a blizzard of papers and sheet metal flew past the window. Some of it was burning, but most was just letter size documents, which you could almost read as they flew past. Up through the window, I could see a huge cloud of black smoke coming from the floors above.

The fire alarm went off, flashing and beeping, and people started to leave. I heard my boss yell "OK people, let's go - we're getting out of here". But not yours truly. I had decided, a few years earlier, that if the building were bombed, I would not be one of the first ones out. My reasoning had nothing to do with "women and children first", but was based on some IRA attacks where two bombs were used, one to stir people up, and the second to kill large numbers when they came together during evacuation. Not leaving immediately was my first really stupid idea.

As it turned out, I was not the only one to hold back. One of my co-workers, whom I know well and respect highly, also decided to wait for a few minutes for the smoke to clear. It seemed a good time to call my wife and let her know I was all right. This sounds harmless, but the way I did it was bad idea number two.

My phone worked, but the phone at her school didn't, so I couldn't get through. While waiting to try the line again, I decided to send her an e-mail which she could read when she got home. The e-mail went out immediately, and I congratulated myself on being such a considerate husband. I tried the phone again, and although I couldn't get an answer, the automated service offered to take a message.

I didn't leave a message the first time I tried calling my wife because I didn't want to spend $0.50 for the automated service. I had regained some of my common sense by the time I got around to calling again, when I sprung for the fifty cents.

I left word that there had been some kind of explosion in the building, but that I was fine, and that I intended to remain in the building to let things settle down. This was also what I had put in the e-mail.


Here, some good luck kicked in, although I found out later that by this time my sister's entire high school had started praying for me. I decided to call my son in law, and ask him to get in touch with my wife. In real life, he is an emergency room nurse at our local hospital, but more to the point, he is also an officer in our local volunteer fire department. When I reached him, he was watching CNN.

He was glad to hear that I was all right, he told me, but a passenger jet had flown into one of the buildings, and, by the way, was I in the one with the big antenna? I said, yes, but that the elevator lobby had a little smoke in it, and the stairwells were probably smoky as well, so I was going to stay put in the office area, which was clear. In a very few words, he asked me to reconsider, because it looked to him like the building was getting ready to come down. This sounded like good information, so I thanked him and told him I'd talk to him later. I found out later that he told friends that he could easily picture me wasting valuable time doing really silly things, which he listed, instead of leaving. I'd find this hurtful, except that he was right on the money. He said that, knowing me, I was probably hanging around taking pictures.

I wasn't the only engineer who wasn't in any rush. Almost, but not quite. At this point there were still a few of us taking our time. I wasn't there when the World Trade Center was bombed in 1993, but lots of the Port Authority Staff were. Most of them went down the stairs this time as if the devil were after them, which is the right thing to do.

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Sept. 18, 2001

Hi Clayt – I'm taking your advice and writing down what I remember from last Tuesday, although I doubt that what I have to say will be of much interest to anyone. The simple fact is that I was oblivious to what was going on, from beginning to end. Actually, that's probably what kept me alive, because if I knew what a terrible mess I was in, I probably would have dropped dead on the spot. (“Don't shoot, Davy, I'm coming down.”)

Our office was on the 74th floor of WTC 1, (The North Tower) which was the first to get hit. My cubicle was in the south-west corner, with a beautiful view of the Statue of Liberty and the Hudson River. I was working on the computer when there was a big “boom” and the building shook, probably a foot or so where I sat. Next came a strange sound like hail hitting a window, but with some additional scratchy noises, while a blizzard of papers and sheet metal flew past the window. Some of it was burning, but most was just letter size documents, which you could almost read as they flew past. Up through the window, I could see a huge cloud of black smoke coming from the floors above.

WTC#3 (3)

[Looking out our office window to the south.]

The fire alarm went off, flashing and beeping, and people started to leave. I heard my boss yell “OK people, let's go – we're getting out of here”. But not yours truly. I had decided, a few years earlier, that if the building were bombed, I would not be one of the first ones out. My reasoning had nothing to do with “women and children first”, but was based on some IRA attacks where two bombs were used, one to stir people up, and the second to kill large numbers when they came together during evacuation. Not leaving immediately was my first really stupid idea.

As it turned out, I was not the only one to hold back. One of my co-workers, whom I know well and respect highly, also decided to wait for a few minutes for the smoke to clear. It seemed a good time to call my wife and let her know I was all right. This sounds harmless, but the way I did it was bad idea number two.

WTC#9 (1)

[The central core hallways, where the elevators and stairs were had some smoke in them. The photo might be showing it smokier than it actually was.]

My phone worked, but the phone at her school didn't, so I couldn't get through. While waiting to try the line again, I decided to send her an e-mail which she could read when she got home. The e-mail went out immediately, and I congratulated myself on being such a considerate husband. I tried the phone again, and although I couldn't get an answer, the automated service offered to take a message.

[I didn't leave a message the first time I tried calling my wife because I didn't want to spend $0.50 for the automated service. I had regained some of my common sense by the time I got around to calling again, when I sprung for the fifty cents.]

I left word that there had been some kind of explosion in the building, but that I was fine, and that I intended to remain in the building to let things settle down. This was also what I had put in the e-mail.


Here, some good luck kicked in, although I found out later that by this time my sister's entire high school had started praying for me. I decided to call my son in law, and ask him to get in touch with my wife. In real life, he is an emergency room nurse at our local hospital, but more to the point, he is also an officer in our local volunteer fire department. When I reached him, he was watching CNN.

He was glad to hear that I was all right, he told me, but a passenger jet had flown into one of the buildings, and, by the way, was I in the one with the big antenna? I said, yes, but that the elevator lobby had a little smoke in it, and the stairwells were probably smoky as well, so I was going to stay put in the office area, which was clear. In a very few words, he asked me to reconsider, because it looked to him like the building was getting ready to come down. This sounded like good information, so I thanked him and told him I'd talk to him later. I found out later that he told friends that he could easily picture me wasting valuable time doing really silly things, which he listed, instead of leaving. I'd find this hurtful, except that he was right on the money. [He said that, knowing me, I was probably hanging around taking pictures.]

WTC#8 (2) [I wasn't the only engineer who wasn't in any rush. Almost, but not quite. At this point there were still a few of us taking our time. I wasn't there when the World Trade Center was bombed in 1993, but lots of the Port Authority Staff were. Most of them went down the stairs this time as if the devil were after them, which is the right thing to do.]

I am pretty sure that I was still at my desk, probably shutting down my computer, and I know I was still in the office, when the second building was hit. I did not see the second plane come in, for which I am grateful, although I would have had a spectacular view. (When I get our next phone bill, I'll check the times when I was on the phone against the published sequence of events.) There was another “boom”, and our building shook again. I passed along what I had just learned about our building to my colleague, who had been on the phone with his wife.

He decided that this seemed to be a good time to leave, but he first took the trouble to first walk the entire floor and make sure that no one else was behind, which is typical of his character. He ran across a third fellow who also was about to start down, so we decided to go together. Meanwhile, I took off my shirt and tee shirt, and soaked them in water. My colleague thought that was a good idea, and also soaked a shirt. We talked about hitting the mens' room one last time, but decided it wasn't necessary, so off we went. I felt absolutely no sense of danger. My only concern was that my legs might be sore the next day.

[I had heard stories of a couple of workers who had walked all the way down from the top floor, and then weren't able to make it to work the next day. Every now and then someone writes a letter to the editor, suggesting that each high rise building run a practice evacuation once a month, which doesn't seem to me to be very practical.]

When we first started down, the stairway had a little smoke in it, but it wasn't bad. More worrisome was the water running down from the floors above. The soles of my shoes were slippery on the wet floor, and I almost fell once, but was able to grab the railing. It didn't help that I was carrying a briefcase, which I did not intend to leave behind. The shoulder strap had broken a couple of months ago, so I had to lug it with one hand, while trying to hold on to the railing with the other. (My wife was involved in a situation a couple of years ago where some idiots had turned on the gas jets in the science lab, directly below her room, and then left, waiting for the place to blow up. By pure luck, enough people started feeling sick, and it was discovered before there was an explosion. Meanwhile my wife, and everyone else, ended up outside in the parking lot, in the middle of winter, without coats or car keys.)

[Based on my wife's experience, I had decided that in a fire, my briefcase and coat were going with me, no matter what, and had practiced our regular fire drills that way, which had gotten me some good natured ribbing. I've noticed in our recent fire drills, people now take their coats, keys, handbags, and briefcases with them.]

When the Trade Center was bombed in the early nineties, all the lights had gone off, and people had to evacuate down smoke filled, pitch-black stairs. After the bombing, emergency lights had been installed, and they worked pretty well. We ran into a few isolated areas in the upper floors without light, but not enough to cause problems. I had a small flashlight with me, but I wanted to use it only where absolutely necessary, to conserve the batteries. It came in handy, though, towards the bottom, where the smoke was thick. [Before the bombing, the stairwell lights were powered on an emergency power system, which theoretically would come on if the regular power were lost. Unfortunately, the bomb blast severed the emergency power feeds, so the lights went off and stayed off. The stairwell lights had since been provided with backup batteries, so with one or two isolated exceptions, they stayed on this time.]

Somewhere around the thirtieth floor, we started catching up to others going down, and we met the first firemen coming up. A young woman was having trouble trying to climb down the stairs in high heels, and it took a couple of minutes for people to talk her into taking them off. The air in the stairwell also cleared up somewhere around here, and the stairs were dry, so I was sure that I was home free. The clear air didn't last for long. It turned out to be sitting on top of more smoke, and it soon became difficult to see and to breathe. I had used my wet tee shirt occasionally, throughout the descent, to help filter out the smoke, but from here on down it really helped.

I have never been in a burning building before, and I don't know at what density smoke stops being a nuisance and becomes a threat. The firemen were not using breathing gear, so I suspect that the smoke was pretty mild. With people starting to fill the stairwell, it was starting to get warm, so I took out my other wet shirt and wrapped it around my neck to keep myself from overheating. At this point I was getting a little concerned, but figured that with firemen around, nothing too bad could happen.

By this time we had gotten back into smoke, and had also come across an injured man trying to get down the stairs. He had a few cuts, and one of his legs was giving him trouble. My colleague took the guy's arm, wrapped it around his shoulder and helped him down several more flights. The firemen had set up a temporary rest station on the twenty first floor, to give people who were having problems a chance to sit and rest, or take a little oxygen. The man with the bad leg stopped here, and when he went in, I saw a rather heavy-set woman sprawled out in a chair. She looked beat. I don't remember seeing any others. Stopping to rest might have cost them their lives.

We continued down, through increasing smoke, but guided by firemen with bright flashlights. I'm not sure which floor I was on when I almost fell down the stairs again. I couldn't see where the floor ended and the steps began. Maybe I could have caught myself, because I was moving slowly, but I let out a “oops” and two very strong hands grabbed me. I have a pair of bruises, one on each arm, to remind me of two men whom I hope got out in time.

When we reached the sixth floor, there was another big boom, and the building shook again. I head someone say, “it's ok, we're in the strongest part of the building”, which I knew was true. What I didn't know was that the boom was the other building collapsing. We stayed put for couple of minutes, and then started down again. Firemen were directing us to “go straight ahead, don't look to the right”. I assumed they didn't want us to take a wrong turn, and I concentrated on trying to go straight ahead. Later, my colleague told me that he had looked. The firemen hadn't wanted us to see dismembered bodies.

I was surprised by the amount of smoke in the air, considering how low we were. Thinking about it now, what I then thought was smoke was probably mostly dust. At any rate, it was gray and dense and I couldn't see for more than a few feet. We came out of the stairway on the second floor, more or less at grade level. By this point, I knew where I was, but even so, could hardly see my hand in front of my face. I was able to find the exit, though, and on my way out a policeman, I think, asked if he could have my shirts to cover a dead body.

I think that I was in one of the last groups to leave the building. We had to walk single file over rubble, and ahead of us, a couple of workers were pulling a piece of sheet metal out of the way, so that we could stay under the protection of the overhang of an adjacent building. This delayed us another few minutes. The windows in this building were blown out. Police cars were covered with ash, some had their windows smashed in, and there were little fires burning on the ground. I wondered what could have happened here to cause such a mess. There was still enough dust in the air to keep me from seeing more than fifty yards. I took my time getting out to the main street (parallel to Broadway, a block to the west), not wanting to trip and get hurt at the very end.

As I started walking north, towards a barrier set up by the police a few blocks away from the trade center, I noticed that there weren't many people in the street ahead of me, although there were a few policemen and firemen at the barrier. Suddenly they started to wave and shout “hurry up, run”. I thought they were just trying to keep the street clear, until they turned and ran themselves. I looked back and saw that the building was collapsing, and that there was a wall of dust and debris heading my way. I saw one rescue worker grab a man who was limping, and in a split second drag him into a nearby ambulance. The last time I tried to run was to catch a train, and then I ended up tripping and falling face first into some briars. In spite of that experience, I ran again. I didn't think I could out-run the building, but thought it would be worth trying.

Now here's a strange thing. I looked back over my left shoulder and I saw the building falling northwards, the way a tree would fall, tipping over, pivoting at its base. The picture in my mind is as clear as a bell. I saw the top half of the building falling to the north, but off to the side of me, above the surrounding buildings. This is not what actually happened, and I had to watch the re-runs on TV to convince myself that what I had “seen” was completely wrong, and that the building had actually come straight down.

Anyway, I ran as fast as my legs would take me, and managed to get into a cross street to the east. I saw a couple of cops dart inside a doorway ahead, and I made for that. The wall of dust and debris was right behind me when I reached the door. I managed to get into the vestibule and close the door just as it went by. The air outside was dark brown. We all went inside the main building, which was apparently abandoned, to get some good air. Even inside, the air was slightly dusty, probably from the first collapse. After about fifteen minutes, the air outside had cleared enough for me to be on my way. I went over to Broadway, and started hiking uptown, looking for a phone to call my wife. By now I was recalling my last words, that I was going to stay in the building, and I wanted to find a phone as quickly as possible. The few pay phones that were still working had long lines. I had a cell phone, but it didn't work until later in the day.

I found a phone after an hour or so, and when I called home my daughter answered. She was relieved to hear from me. She and her husband had left work to be with my wife, who, it turned out, didn't know that my building had fallen. My daughter had found this out herself, minutes earlier, and now she had to break the news to her mother. When they heard my voice, the three of them were so relieved, they wanted to jump in the car and come to Manhattan to rescue me. With great difficulty I persuaded them not to do so.

To make a long story short, I made it up to Thirty Second Street, where there is a PATH station. There I found that no busses or subways were running, and that all the bridges were closed. By early afternoon, my cell phone had come back on, and I was able to let my wife know how things were going. Around two thirty, I decided to walk over to Penn Station, which I could see a block away, to find out if any trains were running, and to see if it might be a good place to wait for the city to come back to life. As luck would have it, there was a train getting ready to leave for Washington, via Newark, and I managed to get on. When we arrived on the Jersey side, we had a clear view of Manhattan. It was awful. There was a huge column of smoke over the entire southern end of the island. I got off in Newark, and with a little shuttling, arrived back in Hoboken in time to catch my regular train home. There weren't many people on the train, which is normally filled. New Jersey Transit deliberately didn't collect any fares, which was a nice gesture. So ended my day.

To anyone working in a large building, I'd offer the following advice:

1. Get going and don't stop. Don't stop to catch your breath. Don't stop to rest a sore leg. Don't stop for anything.

2. Have a comfortable pair of walking shoes, with soles strong enough to let you walk on scrap metal. If they don't have corrugated rubber soles, get a pair of new rubbers with lots of bumps on the soles for traction in water, and make sure they fit your shoes. Keep them in your desk.

3. Keep a towel and a tee shirt in your desk, along with a couple of bottles of water. A wet tee shirt helps you breathe. A wet towel around your neck helps keep your body temperature down.

4. Always have a flashlight, but only use it when you absolutely have to.

5. Don't call from inside to say that you are all right, and above all, don't say that you are staying in the building. Call from the outside.

6. Hold onto the railings with a death grip.

7. Bring your keys and your coat.

A. Survivor

P.S. a couple of personal thoughts.

Regarding the collapse of the building, I heard a structural engineer describe on a talk show, that night, exactly what happens to a steel building in a fire. I know this stuff, and yet the possibility of collapse never entered my mind until I was told that it was going to happen. Even then, I was visualizing a falling over rather than a vertical collapse. There have been some recent disasters which happened the same way, within the last year or so, and I knew about them, and about the mechanism, yet it never even entered my mind that it would happen in this building. I've seen and marveled at the mammoth size of the beams and girders in the building, and knew that they were fireproofed with a thick protective layer of this reddish brown stuff (the asbestos had been removed). These prior impressions might be responsible for my mental block.

There was a warehouse fire in Worcester which killed nine firemen, some of whom had gone back in to rescue others who had gotten lost. The structural steel heated up, softened, and down came the roof. The same thing happened in the city, several months ago, at a car dealership. Talk about mental blocks. I was horrified the next morning when I saw the video of the conflagration just above me, and then watched the building collapse.

By the way, our local fire department almost lost a man in a simple wood frame house a few years ago when a floor collapsed he dropped into the burning room below. He was very lucky to get out.

So, take care.

P.P.S. Found out today that our daughter is going in on Friday, Saturday to help with the rescue and recovery efforts. The city is asking for help from small squads throughout the state, because of problems they have had with “freelancers” – I'm not sure what that means, but I'll let you know when I find out. Hope she stays out of trouble.

September 29 (I think), 2001

Hi Clayt – here's a follow up on one of my adventures. It was in the NY Times, and it refers to the woman who had stopped on the 21st floor, the one whom I thought looked exhausted.

Incidentally, my daughter was there last weekend as part of the Tioga County volunteer group. The City had been having all sorts of problems with local EMS “freelancers”, so they went to a state-wide effort to use official companies of volunteers (like Campville), to maintain some sort of discipline. The locals were wandering off, doing their own thing, and in some cases, looting.

She said the NYC cops and firemen were wonderful, and did everything they could to make them comfortable. She and a couple of others even got a private guided tour from one of NYC's finest, who took them along the police line (the feds had half, and the NYPD had half) until he found a buddy who let them go through.

Switching gears, I'm going back to work on Monday, the first, in a trailer at Newark Airport. What a comedown. The Port is splitting us up into New Jersey and New York groups, pretty much determined by how we get to work. After six or eight weeks, the plan is to move us into permanent offices in Newark, which won't be bad because PATH goes there from Hoboken. In the long run, we'll end up back in the City.

I'd expected to be laid off, but instead they paid all of us to stay home for the last couple of weeks, while new office space was being prepared. I couldn't move for the first few days, from a combination of really sore muscles and a vicious cold which set in around Thursday. my daughter told me that was typical of a smoke event.

I made good use of my time, or at least I think so, doing a lot of writing. Rosemary hasn't been happy, but some day she, too, will be famous. At least that's what I've been telling her. Actually, I feel like Mozart, trying to finish his Requium, but don't let that get around. I've heard a lot of talk lately about obsession.

I've made a fascinating discovery in the Goldberg Variations. They have been called Bach's greatest secular work, but I'm convinced that the old fox hid a complete Latin Mass in them. You've probably never counted them, but the set includes the theme (Aria) and thirty variations. After the final variation, the theme repeats.

My very strong suspicion is that he noticed that the Aria, which he had written some years before for his wife, was perfectly suited to the words Kyrie Eleison, Lord have mercy, which is in Greek, and was the starting point of the Mass itself and of all it's musical settings.

At any rate, I bought a CD by Glen Gould a few years ago, to see if the Goldbergs would put me to sleep. That is why they were written, according to my favorite legend. Anyway, I eventually bought the score and tried working some of them out on the piano. I found them charming, and have since spent a lot of time trying to learn the ones within my capabilities. I could tell, right off the bat, that some of them were definitely not written as harpsichord pieces, but were much more suited for the organ, with its ability to carry a sustained melodic line. At first I assumed that he was recycling some little preludes and postludes which he had ad-libbed over the years, but then I noticed that some of the pieces had a distinctly vocal style.

I found, more or less by accident, that one of them (19) made a perfect “Allelulia”, which pleased me to no end. Of course, you can't have an Allelulia without an Amen, and guess what. Number 18 makes a perfect Amen. Things started to get interesting.

The minimum number of parts of the Mass which are traditionally set to music are the Kyrie (the only part in Greek), the Gloria (Glory to God in the highest), the Credo (I believe in one God), the Sanctus (Holy, Holy, Holy) which is usually set with a separate Hosanah, and the Agnus Dei (Lamb of God), in that order. The old mass had many more prayers, some of which are set in the larger musical pieces.

Once I suspected a pattern, I quickly identified the Sanctus. It's Number 9, and it fits like a hand in a glove. Number 10, a little fugue, goes great as a Hosanah, and comes right where it should, just after the Sanctus. To make a long story short, I have identified at least nineteen pieces which line up with parts of the old Mass. A few of the melodies are elaborate chants, which have a looser form than a conventional song. Listen to Variation 12, with the strange sounding melody set against a pattern of three repeated bass notes. This one bothered me right from the start.

It's actually a setting of the Pater Noster (the Lords Prayer), in a chant form. If your recording doesn't go too fast, which most do, listen for the pattern – Pater Noster qui es in coelis (Our Father who art in Heaven), followed by Sanctificetur nomen Tuum (Hallowed be thy name), Adveniat regnum tuum (Thy kingdom come), Sicut in coelo, et in terra (On earth as it is in heaven, and so on. Lets face it, there aren't all that many melodies that can accommodate Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie (Give us this day our daily bread).

Each new identification made it easier to find other candidates, because I still have my old St. Joseph's Daily Missal, which I was given in eighth grade for my Confirmation, and which has the complete Latin Mass with a translation. Latin was eliminated by the Catholic Church about forty years ago, and the old structure is gone, so anyone today would have a tough time making the connection. On the other hand, I grew up with it. In addition, I'm familiar with choral styles from my choir director days, and have heard a lot of sung masses, including the old chants. Although I have forgotten most of the vocabulary, I feel perfectly comfortable listening to something sung in Latin, which wouldn't sound at all alien to me, as would, for example, something sung in Bulgarian.

Mike and Jody came up to visit us last night, and I was explaining why the kitchen table is taken up by my other computer. (Rosemary has been very tolerant about this whole thing, although I wouldn't use the word “supportive”. I've been making copies of the pieces, note by note, and superimposing the words, and it's occupied me day and night since I've been home. I've been waking up in the middle of the night to come down and work. I'm trying to get enough put together in a printable form to submit it for copyright, not so much for publication, as to establish precedence. I want my name etched, however tinily (the spell checker isn't any help here - I'm trying to say “however really, really, small”, like “in the style of Tiny Tim”, but that might be a bad analogy), in the history of musicology, and I'm running out of time.

Returning to Mike, I was explaining my theory to him, and was showing him the old “Last Gospel”, which used to be the final prayer of the Mass (In the beginning was the Word), when I noticed something that I had missed earlier.

The very last variation is the Quodlibet, which nobody would know about, except that Bach wrote it at the top of the sheet. This is an old music form in which two completely different songs are blended together, so that what you hear is a perfectly good song, but in which, the two melodies both stand out. The classical story about this particular variation is that one of the songs has a son telling his mother that he's leaving home because she never feeds him properly by putting meat on the table, and the other is a song about cabbage. This is considered by all musical scholars to be a fine example of Bach's sense of humor. Needless to say, the piece itself is a musical gem.

I've found that the words of the Last Gospel fit perfectly to the first melody, and that the second melody could easily be sung with “Deum de Deo, Lumen de Lumine”, from the Creed, and which mean God from God, Light from Light. This would be a fitting climax to the Variations. Closure doesn't get any better than this.

But, actually it does. Here is what I noticed, last night, when I showed Mike my old missal. You have to remember that Bach was a devout Christian, with very strong beliefs. I had forgotten all about the way the old Mass ended, but it all came back when I happened to look at the page just above the beginning of the Last Gospel.

The priest used to stand at the alter with his back to the congregation, and after making sure the alter and chalices were properly cleaned and arranged, he would shift over to the left hand side of the alter, and give a blessing. Then he would say the following: “Initium sancti Evangelii secundum Joannem” which means The beginning of the Holy Gospel according to John – Johann, to you and me.

The Last Gospel starts with “In the beginning was the Word”, and continues with a brief but comprehensive listing of the fundamentals of Christian belief. I woke up at 5am this morning, remembering that just a few sentences into it comes the point – et lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt – And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness grasped it not.

I don't know if I ever showed you an old Currier and Ives print that I used up here while teaching chess to kids. It shows a fox looking into a forest, with lots of details. I used it to make the point that a chess position contains much more than what we see at first glance. Hidden in the picture were a great big horse staring out at you, a wild boar, a sheep, and lots of human faces.

Well, I hear some movement upstairs. Rosemary must be getting ready to come down for breakfast. Talk to you later.


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EFFORTPOST The Disappearance of Amelia Earhart

Amelia Earhart was raised mostly by her grandparents due to her father's alcoholism. As a child, she broke with traditional gender roles and was interested in unconventional activities such as climbing and hunting. After graduating from high school, she worked as a military nurse and social worker before dropping out of medical school in 1919.

After flying for the first time, she decided to become a pilot herself, despite her parents refusing to cover the cost of her pilot's license. Amelia worked various jobs to afford to fly and took her first flying lesson with Neta Snook in 1921. Just six months later, she bought her first plane and soon broke a world altitude record for women. Her parents' divorce in 1924 took her to the East Coast with her mother, where she sold her plane to buy a sports car. Despite this, she continued to work as a teacher and social worker in Boston.

Earhart rose to international fame in 1928 when she became the first woman to fly nonstop across the Atlantic, and was hailed as a hero. After the 20-hour flight, she modestly commented that the pilot had done most of the work and she was just baggage, but she expressed a desire to try it alone one day.

In 1929, Amelia Earhart took part in the first Cleveland Women's Air Derby, an aerial competition for female pilots only, pejoratively referred to as the powder puff race. She received financial and moral support from George Palmer Putnam, a New York publisher. After the race received negative press coverage, she met with four other female pilots and formed the Ninety-Nine Club in the fall of 1929 to promote the role of women in aviation.

In 1932, Amelia Earhart undertook her greatest adventure when she became the first woman to fly solo across the Atlantic, five years after Charles Lindbergh. On May 20, she took off from Newfoundland for Paris in a modified Lockheed Vega 5B. Although she did not reach Paris due to bad weather and mechanical problems and had to make an emergency landing near Derry, Northern Ireland, she received the National Geographic Society Gold Medal and the Distinguished Flying Cross from President Herbert C. Hoover, becoming the first woman to do so.

The Vega 5B used by Amelia Earhart for the flight is now in the National Air and Space Museum of the Smithsonian Institute in Washington.

On January 11, 1935, Amelia Earhart became the first person to fly solo across the part of the Pacific Ocean between Honolulu, Hawaii, and Oakland, California, in a Lockheed Model 5C Vega Special. In the same year, she also completed the first solo flight from Mexico City to Newark. She was trained in navigation by pilot Paul Mantz, both herself and her co-pilot.

Shortly before her 40th birthday, she planned to be the first person to orbit the earth at the equator. She began her project with a Lockheed Model 10 Electra, financed by Purdue University. Earhart, an advisor to female students at the university, used the Electra as a flying laboratory, sponsored by the university. After a takeoff accident in Hawaii in March, she aborted the first attempt. Her navigator, Henry Manning, left the project after this accident. With Fred Noonan as the new navigator, she took off again from Miami on May 21, 1937. She flew three quarters of the way via Brazil, West Africa, Calcutta and Rangoon before taking off from Lae in New Guinea on July 2 to cross the Pacific. Her destination was Howland Island, where she planned to make a stopover.

Amelia Earhart planned to find the small Howland Island using radio direction finding. The USCGC Itasca was waiting there to respond to her radio messages. However, Earhart reported that she was not receiving any radio signals while she was apparently wandering in distress over the Pacific. At around 08:40 local time, her navigator gave her the direction of flight (line 157°/337°), after which contact was lost. The plane never reached Howland Island.

Shortly after Earhart's last radio message, the US government launched an extensive search operation: 64 planes and 8 warships participated, making it the largest search operation in aviation history up to that point. More than 400,000 km² of ocean were searched, at a cost of approximately 4 million US dollars. However, neither the plane nor Earhart or Noonan were found, and the search was called off on July 19.

Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan were officially declared "missing, presumed dead".

Several factors led to the suspected accident:

Incorrect map position of Howland Island, navigation problems caused by the International Date Line, and communication problems. The radio antenna was found on the runway, which limited communication. A possible crash into the sea is assumed, as neither the plane nor the bodies were found. It is suspected that lack of fuel and stabilization problems meant that no distress calls could be sent. Other hypotheses about her fate range from hiding on South Sea islands to being kidnapped by Japanese troops. Reports of calls for help after her disappearance are interpreted as possible signals that could have been created by reflection in the ionosphere.

There is evidence that Amelia Earhart and her navigator may have made an emergency landing on Gardner Island (now Nikumaroro). Finds such as a woman's shoe, a sextant box and a bottle of Bénédictine were discovered there. Bone fragments that may have belonged to Earhart were also found, but a clear identification was not possible. Despite extensive searches, the plane wreckage has not yet been found. One theory is that it was dragged over the coral reef by the current after an emergency landing. Expeditions to search for the wreck have so far been unsuccessful. However, there are also counterarguments, such as the lack of further equipment or wreckage on the island. It remains unclear what happened to Earhart and her plane.

According to this theory, Earhart and Noonan were captured by the Japanese after an emergency landing near Mili Atoll and later held captive on Saipan, where they died.

The capture hypothesis received new attention through a History Channel documentary in July 2017. A photo that was mistakenly interpreted as a 1937 photo on Jaluit Atoll was supposed to show Earhart and Noonan in Japanese captivity. However, it turned out that the photo was actually from 1935, as a Japanese blogger noted.

Deep Sea Vision's search for a navigation error due to crossing the date line resulted in a sonar signal in January 2024 that may represent a Lockheed Electra. The wreck lies about 160 kilometers from Howland Island, halfway between Honolulu and Australia, at a depth of almost 4,900 meters. It shows matching contours such as size and twin tails. A more detailed investigation was not possible because the expedition did not recognize the wreck until 90 days later and it was then too late to turn back.


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The Battle of Cannae was a key engagement of the Second Punic War between the Roman Republic and Carthage, fought on 2 August 216 BC near the ancient village of Cannae in Apulia, southeast Italy.

It is regarded as one of the greatest tactical feats in military history and one of the worst defeats in Roman history, and it cemented Hannibal's reputation as one of antiquity's greatest tacticians.

Commanders and strength of both sides;

The Roman Army

Total Strength; 86,400 Men
Light Infantry

15,000 Velites


≈25,000 Roman

≈30,000 Allied


2,400 Roman

4,000 Allied

Troops in Camp

10,000 Allied Infantry

Roman Commanders;

Gaius Terentius Varro
Lucius Aemilius Paullus
Servilius Geminus

The Army of Carthage

Total Strength; 50,000 Men
Light Infantry

6,000 Skirmishers

2,000 Balearic Slingers


21,000 Gallic

3,000 Spanish

8,000 Libyan


4,000 Numidian

2,000 Spanish

4,000 Gallic

Carthagian Commanders;

Hannibal Barca
Mago Barca

This is the story I wrote about the battle, based Polybius, who was a Greek historian. I just added more action to what happened according to him. Enjoy reading.

On a sweltering August 2nd, the battle standard in front of Varro's tent signalled to the troops to array for battle. As the gusts of south-westerly Volturnus wind raised clouds of fine dust across the dry Apulian soil, for the next several hours, army officers closely supervised the complex deployment to ensure that the legions would form in the correct order.
Varro, and the rest of the Roman leadership, decided to show the enemy their willingness to fight.
However, they had no way of knowing if the Carthaginians would accept a battle in this new location. But then... Hannibal led his troops through the gates...
The two armies crossed the river Aufidius at various points and marched onto the dust-blown flat plain below the town of Cannae.
Yet, the Romans still weren't sure that Hannibal would give battle, so they left a 10,000 strong garrison in the main camp. It was Paullus who insisted on this, arguing that, besides guarding the baggage, this force could also threaten Hannibal's camp and cut off his line of retreat once the battle went in favour of the Romans.
However, Hannibal wasted no time in deploying his army, sending out his light troops to form a protective screen for the main body.
Varro too sent out the Velites to mask the process of deployment from the enemy.
There are suggestions that the Roman leadership didn't actually expect the more mobile Carthaginians to fight on such a narrow and confined battlefield, and merely wanted to deploy the legions in front of the enemy to boost morale and rebuild their confidence, after being humiliated the day before for refusing to fight. Such practices of building up the confidence of the men were common in the battles of this period, but it is far more probable that the Romans did, in fact, fully intend to fight this battle on the ground of their own choosing.
Whatever the case, Hannibal is said to have had 40,000 infantry and 10,000 horse, while the Romans fielded around 70,000 infantry and 6,400 cavalry.
Varro placed a screen of around 15,000 velites in front of the main line. 4,000 allied horse were positioned on the left under his direct command, while Paullus was in charge of the 2,400 Roman cavalry deployed on the right. To compensate for their numerical inferiority, the squadrons of horsemen were packed in a tighter formation, with no more than 1.5m between each rider. Room to maneuver the horses wasn't necessary as their role would be purely defensive while the infantry drove the attack forward.
Regular Roman infantry was mixed with the cavalry to give more stability to the static squadrons.
Servilius commanded the 55,000 Roman legionaries and allied troops in the center, arrayed in a much deeper and more tightly packed triplex acies. Varro used the overstrength maniples to add depth to the infantry formations. Furthermore, he reduced the gaps between the lines to bring the full weight of the legions to bear, aiming to overwhelm the enemy.
He knew that, at the battle of Trasimene, the Roman heavy infantry held off the Carthaginians for hours, inflicting significant losses, despite being in an unfavourable position. And the year prior to that at Trebia, the legions hacked their way through the Carthaginian center, getting the better of both the Gauls and several contingents of Libyans, Hannibal's best infantry. It's worth noting that the tighter maniple formations restricted the tactical flexibility, but eased the coordination of the massive army and, more importantly, the deeper formations possessed longer endurance in a direct confrontation, thus the Roman leadership was confident that the legions can outmatch the enemy and crush Hannibal's center yet again.
To achieve this Varro chose the battlefield wisely.
He packed the legions on a narrow front, with the river and the hills near Cannae protecting the flanks from envelopment. This would force the Carthaginian horsemen into a frontal charge and the Roman cavalry was tasked with delaying long enough for the legions to finish the job. If they could break through the Punic center, it wouldn't matter if the weaker Roman horse lost the fight on the wings, because at that point the Carthaginian cavalry couldn't do much more than harass the large block of legions.
The selection of the battleground at Cannae could allow the heavy infantry to smash their Punic enemy. The Roman plan was simple, but efficient.
Meanwhile, Hannibal placed around 6,000 Spanish skirmishers and up to 2000 renowned Balearic slingers as a screening force in front of the army, instructing them to raise as much dust as possible to hide the disposition of the troops. Behind them formed the close order infantry, with 21,000 Gallic warriors making up the bulk of the main line. 3,000 veteran Spanish infantry were interspersed to strengthen the center.
But, unlike at Trebia, where his main line collapsed because he amassed all of his infantry to try and match the Romans and didn't keep any reserves for decisive action and to plug the gaps in the line, this time he positioned the 8,000 Libyans, his best, most disciplined men, in the rear, hiding them from view behind the formations in the front.
On the Punic right were 4,000 Numidian horsemen, commanded by Hanno, tasked with holding the flank, while on the opposite side the Carthaginian general placed 2,000 Spanish and 4,000 Gallic cavalry, under the command of Hasdrubal, planning to overload the left flank in a direct attack on the Roman right, hoping to smash the enemy cavalry and threaten the legions from the rear.
Neither side was intimidated by the other. Gallic and Spanish troops had the confidence of past victories against the legions, while the Romans trusted in their superior numbers, remembering that even in prior defeats, their heavy infantry often prevailed in hand to hand combat against the Punic troops.

Then… around mid-day, like a lumbering beast, the Roman formation moved forward!

The Carthaginian cavalry on the left led the line, trotting at pace, while the light infantry of both armies moved ahead of the main lines to open the engagement.
Now, hidden behind the dust raised by the screen of skirmishers, Hannibal made his move, advancing with the main line to form a crescent formation that would bulge towards the enemy.
He understood that the Romans chose this narrow battlefield to deploy their army as a battering ram and that his outnumbered infantry stood no chance of stopping the legions if they tried matching them man for man. Therefore, the bulged line was supposed to absorb the attack and then slowly retreat, to buy time until the cavalry attack on the left unfolded.
Hannibal personally commanded the troops in the center, with the help of his youngest brother Mago, for these troops would bear the brunt of the Roman assault and it was vital that they held out as long as possible.
As the skirmishing between the light troops began in the middle of the field, Carthaginian riders on the left advanced full tilt towards the Roman citizen-cavalry. With veteran officers leading the way, the Spanish and Gallic squadrons stayed compact, doubling up on and dispersing the first lines of Roman horsemen, quickly penetrating their formation. Some of the Roman riders dismounted to fight on foot, but the Carthaginians swarmed their positions, dragging their opponents from their seats.
But despite outnumbering the Romans 3 to 1, the confined space largely negated the numerical advantage of the Punic riders and Hasdrubal did well to tightly control his men, managing to overwhelm the Romans in a brief furious charge. The Roman cavalry couldn't cope and most of them broke and fled, with the Carthaginians now in hot pursuit. Others huddled together to hold off the Punic onslaught for as long as possible.
Paullus himself escaped the carnage with his retinue and moved to rejoin the fighting in the center.
Meanwhile, on the opposite flank, the Numidians pinned down the allied Italian cavalry with hit and run attacks, with neither side able to gain an advantage.
In the center, after a long exchange of projectiles, the skirmishers retreated behind the close order infantry as the Roman legions closed in. The massed ranks of legionaries must've been an intimidating sight, advancing slowly while clashing their weapons against the wooden shields, whilst the trumpeters added to the cacophony of noise. As an almost solid mass of rank upon rank of armoured legionaries clashed with the enemy, Hannibal's advanced center narrowed the width of the initial contact, reducing the deadly momentum of the Roman attack.
The bare chested Gauls, hacking at the enemy with their long slashing swords, and the Spanish in their white tunics, thrusting forward with their short blades, stood firm and held back the enemy for a time, but as more Roman troops entered the fray, the weight of the legions drove back the mixed Punic formation.
Roman velites supported the attack, while the Carthaginian light footmen were ordered to reinforce the flanks of the infantry.

Hannibal and his officers barked orders at the men, telling them to stand off the Roman assault and slowly move back!

Already overwhelmed by the wall of scutum shields pushing them back, ordering the troops to retreat further in the face of the enemy was fraught with risks. All it would take is a few men buckling under pressure to cause slight cracks in the line that could quickly break the formation and turn into a rout.
But the Carthaginian general and his Punic captains led from the front, fighting alongside the troops in the first lines, encouraging the men to hold their nerve, carefully controlling their withdrawal! Hannibal knew that he had to stay in the fight and buy time until events elsewhere on the field unfolded. And for now, the line held…
Close to the hills on the right, the light Numidian horsemen fought in small groups, throwing their javelins and rapidly retreating before the enemy could pin them down. However, their attacks caused very little damage, and Varro simply remained in place, making no effort to drive them back.
The main role of the Roman cavalry was to prevent the enemy from flanking the infantry formation long enough, until the main assault of the legions broke through the center.

But, on the other flank, the superior Carthaginian horse have by now decimated the Roman cavalry, completely routing them from the field.

Next, Hasdrubal could move against the rear of the Roman center or help surround Varro's allied cavalry on the right. But first, he had to regroup and allow his men and horses time to rest, who were by now exhausted from pursuing the fleeing enemy cavalry.
Back in the center, as the Carthaginian infantry fell back before them, the Romans pressed on, prodding and cutting through the retreating enemy line. Sword in hand, the centurions and tribunes shouted orders through the deafening noise of the screams and the clattering of weapons, urging the maniples to charge together, sending more and more men into the concaved Punic center, which seemed like it will soon break.
Conversely, Hannibal and Mago pushed the men to resist a while longer, trying to gain every precious second, hoping that the Spanish and Gallic cavalry will come to their aid.

But as more and more legionaries were drawn inwards, the Roman breakthrough was inevitable and the pressure on the center finally broke the Punic line!

The Gauls and Spanish at first moved back facing the enemy, with flurries of fighting still occurring, but before long they turned and routed.
With the enemy now on the run, Paullus and Servilius poured more men into the gap, refusing to give the Carthaginians any chance to rally and reform their lines.

The overcrowded Roman center surged forward into the salient!

Hannibal's infantry on either side of the gaping hole managed to maintain their lines, but were nevertheless forced to retreat in good order.
Meanwhile, up the field, Hasdrubal had reformed his cavalry squadrons and charged at Varro's formation, realizing that he could not move against the legions in the center before the threat of Roman cavalry was removed.
Until now, Varro successfully held the flank, but seeing the incoming Carthaginians, the Consul knew that the Roman cavalry on the other wing must've routed, and he could not see what was going on in the center. Unsure if the day was lost and facing annihilation himself against a force three times his own, Varro fled the field.
The Numidians gave chase, while Hasdrubal once again had to stop to rest and reform his cavalry, before he could turn them towards the rear of the Roman infantry.
Back in the center, legionaries in their tens of thousands pressed forward to complete the rout of the enemy. As they advanced into the gap, the maniples lost all cohesion, turning into a disorganized mob that rushed forward, with their officers barely able to control small groups of men in their own immediate vicinity.
This mattered little, however, as the Romans could taste victory, having punched straight through the enemy's center.
Hannibal relied on trickery and ruse in his prior victories, but it now seemed that the clear field at Cannae offered no possibility for him to set up an ambush.
But… as the mass of Romans streamed forward, they found themselves between the columns of Libyan infantry, that moved against the pursuing troops.
Incredibly, the Carthaginian general outwitted the Romans, yet again. By carefully masking the position of the Libyans behind his troops in the front and using the clouds of dust raised by the fighting, Hannibal concealed his best infantry from the enemy on an open field , luring the greatest army Rome has ever assembled into an ambush set in plain view, in effect letting the legions outflank themselves.
As the Libyans pressed the overextended and disorganized mass on both sides, the momentum of the Roman attack dissolved and the troops were no longer under anyone's control.
Hannibal and Mago rallied most of the routing Gallic and Spanish troops, turning to rejoin the fighting, while on the opposite side of the field, Hasdrubal charged into the rear of the enemy infantry.
As the compression of the legions began, the utter defeat of the Roman army was now inevitable. With the maniples hopelessly intermingled, they could no longer reform their lines. To make matters worse, Libyan troops looked similar to Roman legionaries, having been equipped with Roman armour, helmets and shields, that they stripped from the dead at Trebia, Trasimene, and Geronium.
The legionaries felt they were no longer protected on the flanks, and with the enemy seemingly amongst them, their nervousness soon turned to panic. Hannibal turned the strength of the Roman infantry, their deep overwhelming formation, against them.
As their ranks contracted under the pressure of multiple attacks, centurions and tribunes tried in vain to improvise, as movement became ever harder in the confined space.

Paullus and Servilius fought heroically, leading a stiff resistance, but both were eventually cut down during the fighting.

Small groups of legionaries tried forming rough formations, but most were too exhausted and stood no chance against the fresh Libyans who were kept in reserve for most of the day. Some of the Roman troops, weary and fatigued, simply gave up, no longer having the strength to raise their weapons.

As the hours passed, the battle became a one-sided massacre.

The fighting went on until dark, but there was little to no tactical sophistication in this final stage of the battle, as the Carthaginians systematically slaughtered most of the trapped infantry.
In the end, widespread Roman resistance collapsed and those who had any strength left in them managed to flee towards the Roman camps and the nearby towns.

Hannibal had won an unbelievable victory!

By sundown, some 50,000 Roman infantry and 2,700 cavalry lay dead or dying on the field at Cannae. The gory sight gave pause even to the most hardened of observers, as nearly 3,000 tonnes of human flesh was left to rot in the August sun – the true fruits of Hannibal's tactical masterpiece.
But, achieving this slaughter cost Hannibal dearly. 5,700 of his men fell, a high figure for a victorious army in ancient times, which is testament to the harsh fighting on the day, although it is worth noting that the Carthaginians were significantly outnumbered until the very end of the battle, which also played a role in the relatively high casualties for Hannibal's army.
Nevertheless, the Roman leadership was decimated. Consul Paullus, proconsul Servilius, and Marcus Minucius Rufus were killed in the battle, along with 80 senators, two quaestors, 29 out of 48 military tribunes, some 300 equestrians, with many others captured and enslaved.

Never has there been a defeat that struck so hard at the very heart of Roman society.

And… as night fell on August 2nd, 216 BC, Rome's very future was left in doubt.

CHILD WARNING EFFORTPOST Serial Killer Gary Ridgway The Green River Killer

Gary Ridgway is one of the worst serial killers in American history. He has an even higher body count, then the most famous serial killers in America. John Wayne Gacy 33 victims, Jeffrey Dahmer 17 victims and Ted Bundy around 30 victims. Now Ted Bundy is suspected of killing as many as 100, but it has never been proven. Ridgway has confessed and was convicted of 49 murders, but it is believed that he has murdered more people. According to Ridgway himself he killed so many people that even he can't remember them all.

Ridgway's Childhood And Teenage Years.

Gary ridgway was born on February 18, 1949 Salt Lake City, Utah, U.S.

His parents are Mary and Thomas Ridgway. He has an older brother and a younger brother. His father was a passive man, but his mother was more aggressive. Arguing with his father and punishing him when he made mistakes. He later stated that there were times that he wanted to kill his mother. Ridgway killed animals when he was a boy and stabbed a 6 year old boy when he was a teen. One thing that could have contributed to his serial killing later in life is his father. His father was a bus driver and he would often tell young gary that he hated prostitutes, and that they were ruining the neighborhood.

Serving In Vietnam and Marriage's.

Gary Ridgway was married 3 times. He first married his high school girlfriend, before serving in Vietnam. He served on board a supply ship in Vietnam. He cheated on his first wife, by going to prostitutes when he was in Vietnam. Gary Ridgway contracted gonorrhea when he was visiting prostitutes in Vietnam. For people that don't know, gonorrhea is a sexually transmitted infection, caused by the bacterium Neisseria gonorrhoeae. Infection may involve the genitals, mouth, or rectum. Infected men may experience pain or burning with urination. This increased Gacy's hatred against prostitutes. His first marriage ended in 1972. His second marriage was with Marcia Winslow. They married in 1973 and were divorced in 1981. Ridgway had a son during his second marriage. In 1985, Ridgway began dating Judith Mawson, who became his third wife in 1988. All the women in his life later stated that Ridgway had an insatiable sexual appetite. His three ex-wives reported that he demanded sex from them several times a day, sometimes in a public area or in the woods. His 3th wife didn't know it yet, but the reason he wanted to have sex in a certain area, was because he killed some of his victims in that area.

Gary Ridgway's victims

Most of his victims were prostitutes and some of them were runaways. His victims were between the age of 18 to 25, but some of them were older and some of them were even younger then 18. He would pick up a prostitute, drive them to a wooded area or to his house, which of course made them an easy target for him, then he would kill them by strangling them to death, have sex with their corpse's then dumped them in a river or buried their bodies. He buried his later victims, because he wanted to return to his death victims to perform necrophilic sex.

Gary Ridgway explains how he lured his victims.

Gary Ridgway's first known murder victim is Wendy Coffield age 16. She was the first victim who was found in the green river.

On August 15, 1982 a fisherman saw the body of a young woman floating in the green river and after looking closer saw one more body floating. He panicked and got out of the river and asked 2 kids to call the police. The police officers didn't believe the kids, but when they eventually came looking they saw the dead bodies in the river

Wendy Coffield's body being pulled out of the Green River, 1982.

2 more bodies were found in the green river that day. They were send to the morque and it was discovered that all 3 of them were strangled to death.

Mugshot picture of Ridgway in 1982.

Gary ridgway was arrested a couple of times. First time was in 1980 for trying to choke a prostitute, but no charges were filed after he claimed that the woman had bit him. Two years later in 1982 he got arrested again. He was a suspect in the Green River killings since 1983. Gary Ridgway is a good liar. In 1984 the police gave him a polygraph test, but he passed the test.

Marie Malvar age 18.

She was picked up by Ridgway on April 30, 1983 near a store of Pacific Highway South in Seattle. Her body wouldn't be found until 2003, when Ridgway confessed to the murders and told the police where he buried her body. By the end of 1983, more then 20 prostitutes were missing. Over the years Ridgway would continue with his murder spree.

The police were finding bodies, and they knew that it was a serial killer who was commiting the murders, but they didn't know who the killer was.

in 1984 Ted Bundy tried to help the police. He told the authorities to stake out a grave site of the green river killer as he himself would sometimes go back to his victims to perform necrophilic acts on his dead victims. Gary Ridgway would also go back to his victims to perform necrophilic acts on his victims, and the police tried to stake out dump site's of the green river killer, but he didn't show up when they tried that.

Cindy Anne Smith age 17.

Cindy was last seen on March 1984, hitchhiking on Pacific Highway South. Her body was discovered 3 years later in 1987. She was found when three boys stumbled across partially buried skeletal remains of a young woman. Identified as Cindy Ann Smith, she was found in a ravine behind the Green River Community College. By the end of 1985 the missing person and dead bodies were more then 30.

Gary Ridgway and his girlfriend Judith Mawson.

The killing slowed down after he met Judith Mawson, but the police were still discovering bodies and Ridgway would go out on a hunt every once in a while. In 1987 police took a DNA sample from Ridgway.

Wedding of Gary Ridgway and Judith Mawson in 1988.

Gary Ridgway is believed to have killed at least 40 girls and women by this point. His final 2 known victims are Marta Kalas Reeves age 36

And Patricia Ann Yellowrobe age 38

Gary Ridgway killed Marta Kalas Reeves in 1990 and didn't kill anyone until 1998 when he killed Patricia Ann Yellowrobe

Gary Ridgway's Arrest

Carol Ann Holmin Christensen age 21.

One of the 4 victims that matched Gary Ridgway's DNA that he gave in 1987.

Gary Ridgway was finally arrested in 2001 when his DNA matched with 4 victims that died in 1982 and 1983. He was arrested at the Kenworth truck factory, where he worked as a spray painter. Gary Ridgway denied the murder charges, but the DNA evidence said otherwise. To escape the death penalty, he made a deal to confess to all of his murders and help authorities where he buried the victims. His wife Judith divorced him soon after he got arrested.

Short compilation of his trial and victims family members statement's

Gary Ridgway has been living in solitary confinement for more then 20 years now, because he is afraid that he would get attacked by another inmate if he lived in general population. Jeffrey Dahmer tried to live in general population and we all know what happened to him.

Gary Ridgway age 75. He is and will stay in prison for the rest of his life.

Thanks for reading👍I will end it with my favorite documentary about Gary Ridgway.

CHILD WARNING EFFORTPOST Mass Shootings Recorded By Their Perpetrators.

Mass Shootings have become a problem within society today, bringing debates on the rights of the people and the safety of the people.

Mass shootings filmed by shooters have also begun to become a problem. fortunately many of them failed at their plans.

Christchurch Mosque Attacks

Brenton Tarrant, who by the way admitted that he would've killed himself if he ran out of money, shot and killed 51 and injured 40 others.

He live-streamed his attack on Facebook.

This is most likely the most famous example of mass shootings recorded by perpetrators.

Buffalo Supermarket Attack

This little strag, Payton Gendron shot and killed 10 people in a terrorist attack. He nearly killed himself. But thankfully the state is soon to do that for him.

He streamed this on Twitch.

Toulouse Attacks.

Islamic terrorist attacks a children's daycare and kills police officers. I don't like to speak to much on child killers. He's rotting rn.

Filmed by the perp on a GoPro.

Crocus Hall Attack

Terrorists from ISIS shot and killed around 140 people then burned down the concert hall they attacked. most were killed or arrested after they took guards hostage at their prison.

Filmed by one terrorist on his phone.

Westgate Mall Shooting

loser who was depressed tried to kill others at his local mall, due to it being quarantine and him having his phone in his hand while shooting, no one died.

Filmed and shared on Snapchat.

Edmond Burke School Shooting

guy tried to kill people at a school that was below his dorm, missed all his shots, but still managed to injure 4 people and ended up killing himself.

Filmed on a sniper cam.

Memphis Shootings

Ezekiel Kelly, a meth head killed 3 people and injured 3 others while high on meth and singing Lil Baby. He is rotting as we speak.

Live Streamed on Instagram

Roanoke, Virginia Shooting

Former news employee kills 2 after being fired. Killed himself at the scene.

Filmed on his phone.

Copper Canyon Apartment Complex Police Ambush

Mentally ill man shoots and kills an officer and is killed by officers he injured. Video via @kanye_

Streamed on periscope, no video

Halle Synagogue Attack

German cuck gets mogged by locked doors at the synagogue he's trying to attack, with homemade guns and explosives. Ends up killing 2 and injuring 2 others before stealing a taxi (after livestream) and being arrested that night.

Nakkhon Ratchasima Attacks

Former solider steals military weapons, and kills 29 people.

filmed / streamed partly on Facebook.

Jacksonville Landing Shooting

Psychotic madden player kills 2 people after losing a game.

audio was streamed on twitch.

Georgetown Kroger Shooting

This wannabe gangsters attempt at shooting 11 people, no one was seriously injured.

thanks to @Koolkai for informing me on this.

Unavailable Shootings

Hypercacher Kosher Supermarket Attack, Filmed via GoPro

Port Arthur Massacre, Filmed via stationery camera gunman placed.

University of North Carolina at Charlotte Shooting, Filmed via Cellphone.

Bærum Mosque Shooting, filmed by the perp via headcam.

And yeah, those are all I could find. follow me for more shit like this.

CHILD WARNING EFFORTPOST Richard Kuklinski Aka The Iceman

"If god comes down and changes the circumstances i won't kill you" The Iceman.

Richard Kuklinski was a mafia hitman/criminal who claims that he has killed more then 100 people, who still appeared to have a normal family life.


Richard Kuklinski was born on April 11, 1935 Jersey City, New Jersey, U.S. Richard Kuklinski didn't have the best childhood. His parents were violent and would often beat him and his 3 siblings.

Especially his father who was an alcoholic, but his mother would beat him too with a broom stick. In 1941 when he was about 5 years old, his older brother Florian Kuklinski, age 7 was beaten to death by his father.

His parents told the police that he died, because he fell down the stairs. Both of his parents died in the 70s and Richard Kuklinski said that he was glad when his father died.

Richard Kuklinski and Barbara Kuklinski.

Richard kuklinski was married 2 times, and has 5 children. He had 2 children with his first wife, but they divorced, and he married Barbara in 1961. They have 2 daughters and 1 son.

His family and neighbors knew him as a good business man, who would go out late at night, but none of them knew what he was doing when he would go out.


In the 60s, Kuklinski was working at a film lab where he would master copies of films. He was also copying and selling porn movies. It was at this film lab where he met the Gambino crime family member Roy Domeo.

Roy domeo was a member of the Gambino crime family, and he saw potential in Richard Kuklinski. Kuklinski was put to the test when Roy Domeo selected a target at random on the street and ordered Richard Kuklinski to kill him. Richard Kuklinski walked up to a man walking a dog and shot him in the back of the head. From that point on, Richard Kuklinski was Roy's favorite enforcer. He continued to do hits for the Gambino Crime Family, killing anyone who crossed them, including witnesses, cops, and rivals. Richard Kuklinski was also running a burglary gang.

Mugshot picture of Joseph Kuklinski in 1970.

His brother Joseph was arrested for killing a 12 year old girl. He stole her dog, and tricked her by telling her that he had found her dog. He lured her to the roof of 438 Central Avenue where he raped and killed her. He threw the dog and her body off of the roof. The dog had a broken leg, but he survived. He was convicted of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. Although they didn't have the best family relationship, Richard Kuklinski still went to visit his brother in prison, but there was nothing he could do about it. Joseph Kuklinski was a target to other inmates, and even the guards hated him for his crime, so they made his stay in prison even worse for him. Joseph Kuklinski died on September 22, 2003.


Richard Kuklinski claims that he has killed more then 100 people, but he was only convicted of 5 murders, so i will only go over his proven and known murder victims. I will try to provide as much information as i can in this list, but more information will be available in the documentary.

1. George Malliband, died on January 30, 1980.

He had gambling debts to loan sharks, and Kuklinski told him to pay his debts, but Malliband told Kuklinski to back off and he even threatened to hurt his family. Kuklinski shot him 5 times, cut his leg, so he could put him in a barrel and dumped him in an alley.

2. Paul Hoffman, died On April 29, 1982,

A 51 year old pharmacist who tried to make a deal with Kuklinski. Kuklinski shot him under his chin, but he didn't die and his gun jammed, so Kuklinski killed him with a tire iron. He put him in a barrel like Malliband and dumped him on a corner of a motel.

3. Gary Smith, an employee in his burglary gang. The police were investigating Kuklinski, and he was afraid that Smith was going to become an informant. Kuklinski poisoned him and then strangled him to death. His body was discovered under the bed of a motel room on Dec 27, 1982.

4. Louis Masgay.

Richard Kuklinski was known as the iceman, because he would store some of his victims in a freezer for months, sometimes even for years to confuse the police on the time of death of his victim. The body of Louis Masgay was discovered on september 25, 1983.

5. Danielle Deppner.

A business partner of Richard Kuklinski. His body was discovered on may 14, 1983 in a wooded area.

On January 10, 1983, Roy DeMeo was killed by a member of his own hit squad on orders from Gambino family boss Paul Castellano. His body was placed in the trunk of a car and, with low winter temperatures, it soon froze.


Richard Kuklinski was arrested on december 17, 1986. His wife was also present when he was arrested. Dozens of police officers geared up to arrest him, and they blocked the roads, so he wouldn't escape. Kuklinski resisted his arrest and it took multiple police officer's to restrain him. Video of Richard Kuklinski after his arrest.

Richard Kuklinski guilty plea in 1988.

He was convicted of murder, and was sentenced to life imprisonment. He was incarcerated at Trenton State Prison. The same prison where his brother Joseph was incarcerated. During his time in prison he gave multiple interviews, and talked with many doctors and specialist's about his upbringing, behavior and murders. His wife Barbara divorced him in 1993, but she still went to visit him once a year.


Richard Kuklinski died of cardiac arrest on march 5, 2006. He was having heart problems and asked the doctors to revive him, if he ever had a heart attack, but his ex-wife Barbara said no. She had signed a do not resuscitate order, and they called her a week before his death to change her mind, but she still declined.

Movie The Iceman (2012)

There is a movie based on the life of Richard Kuklinski starring Michael Shannon as Richard Kuklinski and Ray liotta as Roy Domeo. I saw the movie around the time it came out, and saw it just recently for this post. I think the movie is pretty decent. it goes through the major beats of Richard Kuklinski's life pretty well, so check it out if you are interested. Thank you for reading. I will end it my favorite documentary/interview of Richard Kuklinski. It contains more information about this case👍


On 18th of February 2015 (Wednesday), a man was found dead in Bang Lamung district, in the Pattaya area (Thailand). Police was called around 10 PM. The body was seen in the compound of the Zire Wongamat Condominium on Na Klua 18 Road in Na Klua sub-district. The man lived in a room 3611 C 3 in the adjacent Sky Beach Condominium, on 36th floor.

Pattaya is located south-east from Bangkok. Next to the map is the same place you can see in the video thumbnail, but on Google Street View.

The victim was John David Knotts, a 49 yo man from Gateshead (Ireland). He lived in the apartment with his 47 yo Thai partner, Kanlaya James Napier. The couple has been meeting for two years, another source says for one year.

[...] the pair had been out celebrating the Chinese new year.

When they returned home from their night out the man reportedly became distressed after reading an email.

Thai media reports said that the email informed him that his property back in Ireland was being repossessed.

His girlfriend went to get a security guard and when they returned, they discovered the man standing on the balcony railing.

It is understood that the man was there for some time before he plunged to his death.

This is oversimplified. In the Thai news source, it was mentioned that the couple was drinking alcohol during the celebrations. And that the distressing email about the government seizing his property caused Knotts to be aggressive. He punched his partner, and that's why she reported him to the security guard. The woman reportedly had a swollen face. The security guard entered the room, hoping to discuss the problem after inviting the man downstairs. The man was standing on the balcony and smoking. However, the future deceased climbed the railing and jumped. Police found his girlfriend crying and with a swollen forehead (or face).

Photos from the scene:

Knotts wasn't living in Thailand but visiting it on regular, a few times per year (up to 5). Even though he was living on the benefits, every spare money were saved up for the trips to Thailand. According to his partner, he wanted to stay there one day and was, in general, a romantic guy.

⠀SOURCES :marseysalutepride: (repetitive info, but has another photo)

EFFORTPOST Death of Neşet Turan on TikTok Live. Turkish Internet Famous.


Social media famous Neşet Turan, known as 'Walking Man', set out from Kayseri to Istanbul (774km) on foot with his brother Ahmet Turan and a friend eight days before his death in order to visit CZN Burak.

Turan, who was walking towards Istanbul with his friends, was hit by a light commercial vehicle around Aksaray Sapmaz village around 20.30 on 28.05.2024. Turan was on live broadcast when the vehicle hit him.

Neşet Turan, who was seriously injured, died in Aksaray Training and Research Hospital where he was taken. It was learned that Turan was taken to his hometown Kayseri to be buried.

Driver Bayram Ç.


While an investigation was launched into the accident, the truck driver Bayram Ç, who

was determined to live in Sapmaz village. (71) was detained at his home. In his first

statement, Bayram Ç. stated that he did not realize that he had hit a person and said,

"I only heard a sound. When I did not see anything, I continued on my way. If I had

noticed, I would have stopped and looked. I went home and slept." Bayram Ç. was

released on condition of judicial control after his procedures at the gendarmerie

Neşet Turan's Mother

"He hit my son on purpose. He hit him and didn't stop. I'm telling those who witnessed on live, please help us. Don't let my son's blood remain on the ground. We are plaintiff no matter what. There were more than 2500 people on live. I want my son's rights.

Ahmet Turan, Brother

Ahmet Turan said, "I was doing the live broadcast. My brother was on my left side, and our friend named Ercan was in front of me. When he hit him from the side, he took my brother forward with a 'bang'. My brother passed between me and Ercan due to the impact. Then, I look for him in the water for about 15 minutes. They called the ambulance. It took him 2.5 hours to get to the hospital. It is stated in the news that the person who hit him was 70 years old. I think he was probably concious of what he was doing when he hit. "I want this issue to be investigated," he said. Turan's body was buried in Erkilet Bülbülpınarı Cemetery after the prayer.

Ahmet Turan Live Explanation on TikTok

CZN Burak Explanation

"Dear friends. I saw Neşet Turan, walking men, after he died. I've never seen his videos and didn't know they were on their way to visit me in Istanbul. I didn't tell them to come here. After he died, We contacted his brother immediately and told him that we will come to visit."

A frame from the live that is said it is a dog

this is also a rumor some say that a dog in the road caused the driver to hit Turan.

Neşet Turan Fame

Neşet Turan, a Turkish Internet famous. He was 36 years old. He got popular and became a meme in turkey because of his funny videos where he pronounced "enerji içeceği" ("energy drink") as "enerji sikeceği" ("energy drink" but "drink" is combined with the word "dick") and "arkadaşlar" ("friends") as "arkadaşşaklar (combined with the word "balls") and he hit a energy drink to the floor complaining about the inflation of turkey saying for example "This drink's price is now 20TL. How will i buy this anymore" or "How will those young fellas buy this"

He had everyone use this words in a very short time.


in these 2 videos, his brother Ahmet Turan is simply saying "don't make fake news, or i will sue you. Don't believe scammers, don't send any money. My brother was not hit by a truck. it was a light commercial vehicle.




Rest In Peace.

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