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Dang, havent seen a "fight" type video in a while, if anyone has more videos of fights ending in unfortunate ways, please do post, reddits fight subs kinda suck doo doo feces.

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did you ever find any more of these "fight" videos? did anyone tag you or DM you anything?

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Nah, sadly nothing much yet

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as per linked article: they're charging him with murder.

as least in USA, that's a good thing, as this is clearly self-defense (he's literally backing away from them the whole time, and 2-to-1 fight), if they over-charge the crime it's easier to find not-guilty and they can't retry him for a lesser crime.

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What you said is correct. Unfortunately he is in Australia and I don’t think they have a right to self defense a la America and he is more than likely fucked. I’d say his chances of being convicted of actual murder are around 70%, which is of course unjust and unfortunate.

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its even more unfortunate because if knife guy didn't have the knife, and walked away, the guys wouldve jumped him and mightve left him brain dead. he never turns his back to the 3 guys charging towards him bcuz he knows even walking away won't appease them

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The implication is that the dude was supposed to call the cops, wait until they got there and let them handle the altercation, presumably with firearms or some kind of weapon.

According to the legal fiction peddled by these countries as law, that dude had a moral and legal obligation to allow multiple people to assault him -which would for sure inflict serious harm and could potentially killl him- and avoid using deadly, albeit defensive, force to protect his life.

So, don’t defend yourself, your life doesn’t matter, let them beat you up and pray that the cops get there in time even though we all know they couldn’t and won’t.

This is some truly barbaric shit, it’s a shame that very few countries get this issue right.

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hopefully one never needs to be in a situation where lethal force is necessary to defend one's life. but growing up in the USA, you quickly learn the nuance and what constitutes legal self-defense. wait for the other guy to make a threatening move, only react as much is necessary to defend your life, then retreat if you can. sometimes even after you stop, the other person might keep coming for you, so its like "ok, gotta wait again until they make a threatening move" to stay within the bounds of the law. if you defend yourself, then keep wailing on the person or knock them out then end up stabbing them or something, you'll be charged with manslaughter or murder. so in these hyper adrenaline situations, controlling rationality over emotions is critical to avoid jail time

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Facts

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Super necro-posting but one of my old firearms instructors straight up told the class that if you’re ever in trouble or even THINK you might be in trouble and you’re anywhere remotely near other people, regardless of what weapons you have or don’t have, raise absolute hell. Get all eyes on you and make sure as many people as possible are watching what’s going down. That alone might be enough to make an attacker fuck off.

Obviously that’s only one small part of a self-defence plan, but it’s nonetheless valid.

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Fuckin nailed it

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Yeah this isn't right dude. Source- am Aussie.

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australian here. we do have self defence rights here but they have to be proportional to the threat involved, and being that carrying any type of weapon in public (regardless of your excuse) is illegal, he’d be the one culpable for his death

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If you are not allowed to carry a tool -forget a gun, not even a knife- to protect yourself with in the unlikely event you are attacked by one or multiple assailants then you do not, in fact, have any self-defense rights at all.

When we speak of the right to self defense we are talking about the right to take the actions necessary to secure one’s well being and life from those who initiate the use of force against us. You are not allowed to take the necessary steps to do that then you do not in fact have right to self defense.

You are probably talking about a certain permission to defend yourself under a very limited context, arbitrarily granted by the state, but not per se a “right”.

But do you understand what I am sayin? It’s kinda incoherent to say there’s such a thing as a right to self defense in Australia when even carrying a knife to potentially defend your life is a crime. I’m from Mexico and it’s the exact same way there, it’s absurd, immoral and irrational.

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You’re right bro if the other guy had a bigger knife then you would want a gun! :) That’s having the right to defend yourself I love the US! I stay in the UK where knife crime is a big problem and carrying a knife in public is illegal m. I would love to have a gun to have the right to defend myself cause you never know what or who is around the corner.

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Gayyy

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Australia has self-defence protections, but the fact he decided beforehand to bring a knife out in public implies premeditation so I think the murder charge will likely be successful.

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So if you have concealed carry and you are put in a situation where you have to use it means you premeditated murder? That’s the whole point of carrying. To defend yourself. It’s not that you’re out looking for a reason to kill someone. But it’s better to be prepared in case you are in danger. I also carry a pocket knife with me every day.

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concealed carry is illegal in australia i.e. it’s illegal to carry any sort of weapon on you including knives, pepper spray, swiss army knives, etc.

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That’s so fucked up, irrational and unjust. Australians have a bad, bad government. No wonder the state is doing what is doing to them lately.

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And what might that be, mate?

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Would you get tried for murder if you take down an active shooter killing innocent people?? Just curious about Australia now..

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Australians are subhuman prisoners and prison guards. Don't assume that their laws are rational.

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What a shitty system.

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Agreed

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Like nz they have a retard rule that you can self defend with the same level of threat.

So fists means knife was illegal.

Retarded because imagine the poqer imbalance of knife granny vs huge mans fists.

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That guy had a fucking wicked sticking arm on him. The first guy that dodged the blow got lucky.

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seriously. i was freeze framing it and it looked like the blade was within an inch or two of the first guys eye. he got super lucky with that dodge. second dude walked up defenseless and got got

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Crazy how much damage people can take and still survive, but one little cut and your life is over.

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I dont know if that tall fat guy was an idiot or what. he saw his buddy literally almost lose an eye from knife guy seconds before, then he walks up to knife guy casually, slow, and defenseless then JAB, then he slowly contemplates his life decisions until he's lost so much blood his body collapses under his weight

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It’s interesting to me how we have 5 litres of blood in our body as humans but what I assume to be a half to a whole litre is enough to get this relatively well-built man shuddering weakly on the ground.

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i'm not a medical expert by any means but i think that with an artery severed it can pretty quickly mean lights out as your blood pressure drops and your extremities are unable to get oxygenated blood. Really scary shit.

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Ah, I forgot how important blood pressure is, I was only thinking of actual volume. Thank you for making that point.

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You mean your brain and heart. Legit two of the only things your body needs

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The body needs homeostasis or shit gets fucky

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Blood pressure dropped too rapidly

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Did he think he was just gonna tank a stab wound?

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Looks like it, he even had a reaction like he wasn't just stabbed in the jugular, he was probably gearing up to just walk it off.

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Rethinking his life choices in the last few seconds he has left!

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Damn, that guy was super passive. Never let your guard down. Should've just let the guy with the knife leave.

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5 seconds later and the dude doesnt even have enough blood to operate his legs… somehow this was faster than a bullet to the chest. But seriously why would you advance someone with a knife??

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That's about 11 to 12 seconds to go from fully fine to unconscious and passing out from blood loss...

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My best lesson from gore is probably just how dangerous knives are.

I think the common perception is that you're going to get a bunch of slashes, and sometimes that's what happens, but it's so easy for them to kill you with one jab.

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Pride goeth before the fall

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Crazy to think that if he just walked away he would have lived another 30 or so years. Choices are scary man

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Idk why they tried to fight a knife guy... if you can walk away take the L and walk away. And seems like they had plenty of chances to walk away.

If its life death situation where the guy is trying to kill sure fight until the end. but in this case its just stupidity...

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uk?

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No - Australia.

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For everyone sucking the dick of the guy with the knife, both groups are likely part of a gang, regular people don't go about with knives, and if he had been beaten up there's have been no loss to anyone, also everyone's acting like he didn't have his own boys there too

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Hundreds of thousands of Americans concealed carry firearms everyday, including myself. I also carry a pocket knife everyday. Granted I carry the knife as a tool more than for self defense. Unless you’re trained a knife is a shitty choice for self defense. Anyway, my point is having a method to defend yourself other than your fists doesn’t make you a criminal.

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Why do Americans always act like the world revolves around them, this video is from a country where carrying any weapon is illegal, if you get caught with a knife you'd be arrested for carrying a bladed article or offensive weapon

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Well I suppose it’s better to carry a weapon illegally so you can defend yourself from criminals who don’t care about breaking the law to begin with.

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Difference being, you're acting withing the law in YOUR COUNTRY, the world is more than just america, in aus and nz it's illegal to carry a weapon for any reason, and illegal to carry a knife without good reason, like going hunting, fishing, taking it to be worked on etc, otherwise it's carrying a bladed article which is against the law

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Well that’s shitty man. Considering criminals are going to carry weapons regardless of the law, it puts people who would otherwise follow the law at a severe disadvantage.

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I don't completely disagree, but at the same time (and this is not an attack against the US) these countries where it's not legal have far less homicide, I'm from the UK and gun crim is near non existent, knife crim does exist buts nowhere near the epidemic the media portrays it as, and usually the people doing and getting stabbed are in gangs, the general public is rarely randomly targeted by violent crime involving a weapon

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i walk around with daggers because i live in a major city and you never know when crackheads or basketball players might try to rob you

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Every single day for the last 5-6 years I’ve carried on my person: a firearm, at least one extra mag, a knife, a small flashlight and a tourniquet.

I am not in a gang, I’m just a regular (American) dude who likes to be prepared in case shit goes down. Most of the time the knife is used to open boxes, mail and minor shit. But it could for sure be used for self defense. I use the flashlight all the time. I’ve never had to use my gun or the tourniquet. All of this is carried concealed and nobody even knows I’m carrying all that stuff.

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Lmao let me guess your just like him the type to try to be Superman in situations like this bc your friends think your a looser. The overweight loser got what he deserved he's dead now a dumb dead ugly loser

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I literally said their both probably in gangs, no love lost for either

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Damn, the man didn't even know he was dying.

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Holy fucking shit. The guy that got stabbed he just stood there. I wonder what or about whom he was thinking while he felt his strength and life fade away.

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Fucking eshays finally back up shit they say rather than just stomp on you with their mates

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that fast?

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Fight with knife ?

Are they retard ?

Even with group of 5 men don't have 10% win a pocket knife guy

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:mersya:

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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Should've stayed home and played Fifa and have a wank instead he's dead.

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I don’t think he even had a chance to realize his situation. Overall doesn’t seem like a terrible way to go compared to a lot of videos I’ve seen

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I think otherwise. Seems like his head got very clear very fast and he knew he was going to die and nobody could help him.

And it also seems like he realized just how stupid all this was.

I'd rather fall down a building or get road-killed than bleed out in front of my friends. Just my opinion.

But yeah, there are worse ways to go. I'm very new here, let's see what this site has to offer.

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Typical black cunt thinking he can out staunch a guy with a knife thinking he’s invincible, knife in the neck will tone you down a few notches fuckhead!

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Damn that was such a cleanly aimed stab. Knife dude just have known what he was doing and what he was after.

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This is scary as hell.

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Its amazing how many videos exist of people not taking weaoons seriously .

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Using weapons in fights is just such a pussy move. Way to tell everyone “Hey guys Im a weakass and even though I wanted to fight, Im going to cheat”

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Pussy move? Go tank like that guy then :D

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Cheat ?

5 vs 3 and it cheat ?

He self defend .

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