Cant believe people are arguing the definition of mass killing when 3 little kids and 3 adults were killed. holy fuck who cares. just be glad the that slaughtered them is dead
I agree. But let's not try to subtly imply that there are many other SJW who mass shoot because of the "white man" when most mass shootings are actually committed by white males.
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That shit is faker than cnn. Do you also believe there are 1000 mass shootings every year? These are gang members who didn't even necessarily kill people. I hate those collages.
Kinda? Why can't gangs handle their own business themselves why do people like you even care what happens in the hood you don't live there and I'm sure you avoid places like that to the best of your ability why don't you focus on making your community a better place I know damn well I don't give a fuck about my community and I don't care about yours either but I'm curious why do people like you care about other communities or what you view as right or wrong in the eyes of the law why does the law even matter to you?
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Because innocent people still get shot by gang members all day. Gang members steal and drive up insurance/costs. They destroy property values and neighborhoods in general. And the cherry on top is they all blame whitey while no one in the black community addresses the problem beyond the mayor of some shithole like Chicago saying violence is bad
Trust me if I didn't have to hear excuses for why these gang members do what they do I wouldn't say shit. It's all about the easy money while crying that they never had a chance yet their neighbor down the block just graduated from college
1. It gets citations for its claim or it gets the hose again
2. This is all gonna be gang related shit. The US Congress defines mass killings as follows: **"premeditated four or more killings on indiscriminate victims while excluding violence committed as a means to an end, such as robbery or terrorism."
So piss off with that shite loser and get off truth social
Source: "Public Mass Shootings in the United States: Selected Implications for Federal Public Health and Safety Policy"
The US Congress defines mass killings as follows: "premeditated four or more killings on indiscriminate victims while excluding violence committed as a means to an end, such as robbery or terrorism."
The source you just gave me contradicts what you said on the very first page lol: "There is no broadly agreed-to, specific conceptualization of this issue, so this report uses its own definition for public mass shootings."
You have the attention span and cognitive ability of a fucking tampon lmao 😂
Cherry picking a single sentence in the introduction that highlights the literature gap on the lack of definition 🤣 which this report's entire objective is to resolve and quantify. Then the report dedicates an entire section starting page 4 to scientifically define mass killings, which I mentioned above which the US Congress ended up adopting
Absolute fucking moron who thinks he's so smart with a "gotcha" but is actually retarded
Cherry picking a single sentence in the introduction that highlights the literature gap on the lack of definition 🤣 which this report's entire objective is to resolve and quantify. Then the report dedicates an entire section starting page 4 to scientifically define mass killings, which I mentioned above which the US Congress ended up adopting
I picked that sentence because it separates the report being proof of a "US Congress-adopted definition" you're alleging it is with the "5 random researches writing an opinion piece for congress" it really is
I even looked it up further and you're even more wrong, because the US Congress doesn't even define 'mass shooting' outright, only 'mass killing', which it defines here as: "3 or more killings in a single incident..."
Also I can just bring up the FBI defining 'mass shooting' as "...four or more shot and killed in one incident, excluding the perpetrators, at one location, at roughly the same time" or someone who "...kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location” or bring up the DOJ defining it as "...any incident in which at least four people are murdered with a gun.”
So the argument is dumb semantics that you somehow got wrong, but by your logic, the pic of the mass shooters I posted that you're arguing against is backed by Congress, the FBI & the DOJ
If you don't know what research is shut the fuck up you fucking donkey.
Yes, 5 researchers can absolutely be hired by Congress, a consultant group, or a company to conduct research on matters that require subject matter expertise. It can also be peer reviewed, you know, the hallmark of modern science and how it advances you fucking donkey. As a researcher myself, it really is laughable when morons like you argue about the scientific method, calling it "5 random scientists" without having a fucking clue how science works. Then, Congress ended up adopting this definition.
Then it was amended it seems, which didn't pop up in my search because I didn't search every fucking result cuz I'm not actually doing peer reviewed research. Here's the amendment donkey
Since you are citing the FBI and trust them so much, here you go, another amendment adopted by Congress based on FBI data "White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States."
Then it was amended it seems, which didn't pop up in my search because I didn't search every fucking result cuz I'm not actually doing peer reviewed research. Here's the amendment donkey
You know this "amendment" you're citing in the above link & arguing they implemented to define 'mass shooting' as your original claim of "premeditated four or more killings on indiscriminate victims while excluding violence committed as a means to an end, such as robbery or terrorism" actually doesn't mention any of this definition anywhere... because it's literally the exact same public law amendment I used and sourced in my previous comment when I told you that:
...the US Congress doesn't even define 'mass shooting' outright, only 'mass killing', which it defines here as: "3 or more killings in a single incident..."
You're sperging out and getting shit wrong because you're not even reading your own sources you crack smoking retard
I don't even care about these semantics, I just want you to see how fucking braindead you are
I doubt a true "SJW" would be using the "F" word in their manifesto. They might blame white privilege, but they wouldn't phrase it like that.
Besides, most mass shooters are white.
People like to blame ideologies for mass shootings (Incels, nazis, etc) but the truth is that most of them are just lunatics with guns, they don't support any ideology.
Most mass shootings are committed by black people in inner cities. Ya know, liberal run cities. Maybe you should be more concerned about the hundreds of black people killing each other everyday, rather than some made up boogeyman like white supremacy.
If you deal with your own liberal boogeyman first and give this a moment of brain cognition and executive function instead of regurgitating talking points you hear in Fox "news".
Wouldn't it be in the best interest of liberals to inflate the number of mass shootings by including those gang related shootings in order to provide more fuel to their attempts to ban more guns?
Conservative dumbfucks are just parroting back self-contradictory stupid fucking arguments left and right.
Except they do all the time. They change the definition of mass shooting to be 3 or more victims to include those numbers. Do you really think theres been 500+ mass shootings where a white male "nazi" or "incel" has gone and shot up a school or random town? Absolutely not, it would be all over the news. 99% of those are black intercity gangs.
To make 'mass shootings' seem more common than they actually are some organizations and media outlets have tried to change the definition: "We now define a mass shooting as any incident in which four or more people are shot and wounded or killed, excluding the shooter." https://everytownresearch.org/mass-shootings-in-america
So by that definition there were 686 'mass shootings' in the USA in 2021.. but that includes a lot of gang/drug related shootings (mostly committed by non-whites) which isn't what most people think of when they hear the phrase 'mass shooting'.
There were a few other mass shooters that weren't white. Pulse Nightclub Massacre, Uvalde, Fort Hood, DC sniper, San Bernardino, Allen Texas mall shooting, Navy Yard shooting.
For an incident to legally be called a mass shooting, only 4 people need to have been shot. The news don't like to just broadcast simple gang shootings or just 4 people shot though, especially if only one or two people died, so you don't see those on the news as often as a shooting at a school, or news on the current wars going on. There's so many shootings where there's one target, but multiple people get caught in crossfire, they're still legally a mass shooting.
The government pays millions to censor people who don't share their political ideals, they call conservatives nazis just because theyre conservatives. Of course they don't want their "oppressed" people looking bad even though they commit violent crime at a disproportionately higher rate then any race in this country. So of course they wont consider them mass shootings even if several people get hit and children die.
Well I have a dumbass pass xD I'm drunk as shit. But you got a point. I didn't scroll down to see that I made the same comment as others, which I should have. Troll away lol
Blacks tend to spontaneously shoot people rather than commit planned out massacres, usually it's gang violence and such. They also have this tendency to only wound people, probably a result of holding their gun sideways to look all gangsta an shit. So yes, they do most of the mass shootings in the U.S., but they kinda suck at it.
Yeah they really do. Not being racist, but the data doesn't lie. Also, shooting a black person is like saying the “n” word. Black people do it all the time, but when a white person does it, suddenly it's a problem.
Most of them are gang-related stuff i'd imagine and in the areas they happen in they prob happen a lot. So for them, it's not the biggest news story and probably doesn't leave the local level most of the time. Combine that with how popular "racism" is they also don't want to be accused of pushing a racist narrative because they show so many black killers. Besides that what sounds more newsworthy "gang members kill each other in shootout" or "mass shooter attacks school/insert any public space here"? One sounds like news as usual the other sounds new and interesting. Unless you have some people getting hurt that the public could perceive as innocent the story just isn't as good either. It's all about getting views too without too much bad pr.
Yeah, but I mean if you take a shooting like columbine, sandy hook, etc, I really think that would make big news even if the media were afraid of being "racist". BUt almost all of those types of shooting are white dudes.
The thing is a mass shooting is defined by the fbi as 3 or more people killed by one person. So it's not that there aren't more mass shooters it's that it's not on the scale of those you mentioned. Shootings like Columbine and such are the ones that make big news.
So, even like a self defence shooting would be a "mass shooting"? Or is it just illegal shootings? But yeah, I can see how that would skew the results.
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Another SJW retard brainwashed into thinking white people are the cause of all our problems. Good riddance.
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That's the (((goal)))...
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Your bio says “Fuck dog whistling” and yet you still use dog whistles. Typical pathetic subhuman.
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Cant believe people are arguing the definition of mass killing when 3 little kids and 3 adults were killed. holy fuck who cares. just be glad the that slaughtered them is dead
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(((J€wish question)))
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Aiden Hale was a homophobic christian, please exhibit some basic reading comprehension
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Nigga she identified as a male wym christian
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Not ALL white people are the cause of all of our problems.
But by the way you seem to think, perhaps you are one that does.
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you been watching to much msnbc brainwashed cuck
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Oh you are just SO RIGHT.
MY MIND IS MELTING!!!
Fucking retard.
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liberal shill
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You..MUST BE A
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Y'all have been the source of all problems since the beginning of time 😐
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Oh, good. Troll the guy trying to preach equality. Super original!
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Put that guy in next Funkytown video .Thank you
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You are a very weird person aren't ya.
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I agree. But let's not try to subtly imply that there are many other SJW who mass shoot because of the "white man" when most mass shootings are actually committed by white males.
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Attack of the white males
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If I could upvote you a thousand times, I would.
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Haha is that a cop in the bottom left? WTF did he do to get on this list
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blue on blue moment
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That shit is faker than cnn. Do you also believe there are 1000 mass shootings every year? These are gang members who didn't even necessarily kill people. I hate those collages.
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Wonder what color you are
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I'm not defending blacks. I'm stating the facts because these cherrypicked statistics are fake news.
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4 deaths
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Majority are gang related. But the other senseless shootings are typically white people, yeah.
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very cool, now how many of these are gang related?
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That makes it ok
Retard
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Kinda? Why can't gangs handle their own business themselves why do people like you even care what happens in the hood you don't live there and I'm sure you avoid places like that to the best of your ability why don't you focus on making your community a better place I know damn well I don't give a fuck about my community and I don't care about yours either but I'm curious why do people like you care about other communities or what you view as right or wrong in the eyes of the law why does the law even matter to you?
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Because innocent people still get shot by gang members all day. Gang members steal and drive up insurance/costs. They destroy property values and neighborhoods in general. And the cherry on top is they all blame whitey while no one in the black community addresses the problem beyond the mayor of some shithole like Chicago saying violence is bad
Trust me if I didn't have to hear excuses for why these gang members do what they do I wouldn't say shit. It's all about the easy money while crying that they never had a chance yet their neighbor down the block just graduated from college
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1. It gets citations for its claim or it gets the hose again
2. This is all gonna be gang related shit. The US Congress defines mass killings as follows: **"premeditated four or more killings on indiscriminate victims while excluding violence committed as a means to an end, such as robbery or terrorism."
So piss off with that shite loser and get off truth social
Source: "Public Mass Shootings in the United States: Selected Implications for Federal Public Health and Safety Policy"
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43004.pdf
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The source you just gave me contradicts what you said on the very first page lol: "There is no broadly agreed-to, specific conceptualization of this issue, so this report uses its own definition for public mass shootings."
U just fly in from idiot town pal?
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You have the attention span and cognitive ability of a fucking tampon lmao 😂
Cherry picking a single sentence in the introduction that highlights the literature gap on the lack of definition 🤣 which this report's entire objective is to resolve and quantify. Then the report dedicates an entire section starting page 4 to scientifically define mass killings, which I mentioned above which the US Congress ended up adopting
Absolute fucking moron who thinks he's so smart with a "gotcha" but is actually retarded
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I picked that sentence because it separates the report being proof of a "US Congress-adopted definition" you're alleging it is with the "5 random researches writing an opinion piece for congress" it really is
I even looked it up further and you're even more wrong, because the US Congress doesn't even define 'mass shooting' outright, only 'mass killing', which it defines here as: "3 or more killings in a single incident..."
Also I can just bring up the FBI defining 'mass shooting' as "...four or more shot and killed in one incident, excluding the perpetrators, at one location, at roughly the same time" or someone who "...kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location” or bring up the DOJ defining it as "...any incident in which at least four people are murdered with a gun.”
So the argument is dumb semantics that you somehow got wrong, but by your logic, the pic of the mass shooters I posted that you're arguing against is backed by Congress, the FBI & the DOJ
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If you don't know what research is shut the fuck up you fucking donkey.
Yes, 5 researchers can absolutely be hired by Congress, a consultant group, or a company to conduct research on matters that require subject matter expertise. It can also be peer reviewed, you know, the hallmark of modern science and how it advances you fucking donkey. As a researcher myself, it really is laughable when morons like you argue about the scientific method, calling it "5 random scientists" without having a fucking clue how science works. Then, Congress ended up adopting this definition.
Then it was amended it seems, which didn't pop up in my search because I didn't search every fucking result cuz I'm not actually doing peer reviewed research. Here's the amendment donkey
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-112publ265/html/PLAW-112publ265.htm
Since you are citing the FBI and trust them so much, here you go, another amendment adopted by Congress based on FBI data "White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States."
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/s894/BILLS-116s894is.xml
Fucking donkey lmao 🤣
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Why is it always the reddit cringelords having these insecure meltdowns
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You know this "amendment" you're citing in the above link & arguing they implemented to define 'mass shooting' as your original claim of "premeditated four or more killings on indiscriminate victims while excluding violence committed as a means to an end, such as robbery or terrorism" actually doesn't mention any of this definition anywhere... because it's literally the exact same public law amendment I used and sourced in my previous comment when I told you that:
You're sperging out and getting shit wrong because you're not even reading your own sources you crack smoking retard
I don't even care about these semantics, I just want you to see how fucking braindead you are
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holy shit a portal reference
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i think i did the emojis wrong, fuck
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Lol
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Finally, a man of culture who got the reference! You will get cake.
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I doubt a true "SJW" would be using the "F" word in their manifesto. They might blame white privilege, but they wouldn't phrase it like that.
Besides, most mass shooters are white.
People like to blame ideologies for mass shootings (Incels, nazis, etc) but the truth is that most of them are just lunatics with guns, they don't support any ideology.
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Most mass shootings are committed by black people in inner cities. Ya know, liberal run cities. Maybe you should be more concerned about the hundreds of black people killing each other everyday, rather than some made up boogeyman like white supremacy.
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Nonono they use illegal guns and they're black so they're literally invisible to lefties until a white slightly inconveniences them
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It's not only liberal cities, but cities with high densities of blacks and Hispanics
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If you deal with your own liberal boogeyman first and give this a moment of brain cognition and executive function instead of regurgitating talking points you hear in Fox "news".
Wouldn't it be in the best interest of liberals to inflate the number of mass shootings by including those gang related shootings in order to provide more fuel to their attempts to ban more guns?
Conservative dumbfucks are just parroting back self-contradictory stupid fucking arguments left and right.
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Except they do all the time. They change the definition of mass shooting to be 3 or more victims to include those numbers. Do you really think theres been 500+ mass shootings where a white male "nazi" or "incel" has gone and shot up a school or random town? Absolutely not, it would be all over the news. 99% of those are black intercity gangs.
https://www.axios.com/2023/09/17/mass-shootings-500-united-states-2023
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This is gang related criminal activity, not mass shootings and no one mentioned anything about white supremacists you absolute fucking moron
See my comment here https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/shooting/post/91007/trans-nashville-school-shooter-audrey-hale/2037517#context
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I gotta say, I laughed at the second one!
But is the first post really true? ALL of the mass shooters Ive ever seen have been white, except the virginia tech guy.
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To make 'mass shootings' seem more common than they actually are some organizations and media outlets have tried to change the definition: "We now define a mass shooting as any incident in which four or more people are shot and wounded or killed, excluding the shooter." https://everytownresearch.org/mass-shootings-in-america
So by that definition there were 686 'mass shootings' in the USA in 2021.. but that includes a lot of gang/drug related shootings (mostly committed by non-whites) which isn't what most people think of when they hear the phrase 'mass shooting'.
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We already have a term to differentiate black mass shootings from white mass shootings: chimping out.
We should use a diff term to specify white mass shooters though. I suggest mayohem.
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Fuck I wish I scrolled down before posting basically the same exact thing xD
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Yeah thats cool, actually i expected most people on here to already understand that.
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If I scrolled down I would have seen the other comment saying literally the same thing, but that's what I get for making drunk comments lol
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Go ahead and repeat it, the majority spam the brainwashing propaganda.
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How convenient of (((news))) to be so selective in their coverage...🤔
Almost like there is a narrative that they really want to push??
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it's easy for people to claim racism too, wouldn't surprise me if that is also a part of it. There is def a narritive too though, no doubt.
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Heh, I have to admit, you got me there...
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There were a few other mass shooters that weren't white. Pulse Nightclub Massacre, Uvalde, Fort Hood, DC sniper, San Bernardino, Allen Texas mall shooting, Navy Yard shooting.
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Vegas shooter was J€w and fled to isra€l ?
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Those are the crazy ones, the really bad ones.
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For an incident to legally be called a mass shooting, only 4 people need to have been shot. The news don't like to just broadcast simple gang shootings or just 4 people shot though, especially if only one or two people died, so you don't see those on the news as often as a shooting at a school, or news on the current wars going on. There's so many shootings where there's one target, but multiple people get caught in crossfire, they're still legally a mass shooting.
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Gang related shootings are not mass shootings according to the US Congress you absolute fucking plebs.
See my comment here https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/shooting/post/91007/trans-nashville-school-shooter-audrey-hale/2037517#context
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Are you serious? Who cares what the US congress says about anything.
Opinions about Congress are largely negative; just 26% of U.S. adults have a favorable view of Congress, while 72% have an unfavorable view.
With few exceptions, they are a bunch of clueless, corrupt, self serving egomaniacs that don't give a shit about the American people. Fuck them.
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Who cares what the legislative body of the country says 🤣
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You're just a liberal lemming. No sense in in engaging with you. You're hopeless and unblockable unfortunately.
Keep voting democratic you fukin turd.
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The government pays millions to censor people who don't share their political ideals, they call conservatives nazis just because theyre conservatives. Of course they don't want their "oppressed" people looking bad even though they commit violent crime at a disproportionately higher rate then any race in this country. So of course they wont consider them mass shootings even if several people get hit and children die.
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No reason to be rude. Could have made the comment without the attitude.
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True. But where's the fun in that?
Also the number of people repeating the same misinformation in the thread is staggering lol
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Well I have a dumbass pass xD I'm drunk as shit. But you got a point. I didn't scroll down to see that I made the same comment as others, which I should have. Troll away lol
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Blacks tend to spontaneously shoot people rather than commit planned out massacres, usually it's gang violence and such. They also have this tendency to only wound people, probably a result of holding their gun sideways to look all gangsta an shit. So yes, they do most of the mass shootings in the U.S., but they kinda suck at it.
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Yeah they really do. Not being racist, but the data doesn't lie. Also, shooting a black person is like saying the “n” word. Black people do it all the time, but when a white person does it, suddenly it's a problem.
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I prefer them to the ones shooting kids.
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You do know that kids often get hit during those gang shootings, right? And that a lot of the ones getting shot and doing the shooting are under 18?
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Sure, but still vastly different than specifically singling out children.
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Very few of the people who go on shooting rampages target little kids. I can only really think of a few...
Bath School Disaster (which was actually explosives, but close enough)
Sandy Hook
Covenant
And then there's that guy and his wife who took a bunch of kids hostage with a bomb... and only succeeded in killing themselves.
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Most of them are gang-related stuff i'd imagine and in the areas they happen in they prob happen a lot. So for them, it's not the biggest news story and probably doesn't leave the local level most of the time. Combine that with how popular "racism" is they also don't want to be accused of pushing a racist narrative because they show so many black killers. Besides that what sounds more newsworthy "gang members kill each other in shootout" or "mass shooter attacks school/insert any public space here"? One sounds like news as usual the other sounds new and interesting. Unless you have some people getting hurt that the public could perceive as innocent the story just isn't as good either. It's all about getting views too without too much bad pr.
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Yeah, but I mean if you take a shooting like columbine, sandy hook, etc, I really think that would make big news even if the media were afraid of being "racist". BUt almost all of those types of shooting are white dudes.
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The thing is a mass shooting is defined by the fbi as 3 or more people killed by one person. So it's not that there aren't more mass shooters it's that it's not on the scale of those you mentioned. Shootings like Columbine and such are the ones that make big news.
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So, even like a self defence shooting would be a "mass shooting"? Or is it just illegal shootings? But yeah, I can see how that would skew the results.