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EFFORTPOST Daniel Pearl, but this time FBI, gore and video drama described

You probably saw this, as it's classic. Both as a case itself and relating to gore - including FBI drama about removing it (which just made it another example of Streisand effect) and family devastated over people online watching this video. Actually, they're still quoted as first-hand source of 'but what if that was your family member recorded dying???'. As some users - including myself - are probably too young to remember well case from 2002, I made a post for these bored and wishing to read. Rest under the video. Tl;dr is: they couldn't actually find good legal reason to take video down, all ended up on ethical field and possible hurt feelings, and FBI probably realize requesting to take video down doesn't make it offline.

Pearl disappeared while investigating a story for the Wall Street Journal about Islamic militants in Pakistan. I only focus on selected events there - if you wanna know whole background and political stuff, just go for en.wikipedia :) EDIT: this is probably first gore video case when FBI was involved. Previously, FBI investigated 'Bonsai Kittens' (hoax and not gore).

Kidnapping took place at 23rd of January, murder - on 1st of February, and video release - on 21st of February 2002. First website to host it was http://ProHosters.com. Ogrish had it for some time, then removed; it was reuploaded in May 2004. Their archives for media news mentions from September 2001 to June 2002 are quite repetitive (there were around 25 for that period, in total). First one were German website rant on 'snuff' - then they referred to e.g. chechclear as such, apparently surprised in 2001 it was a thing - then few news were about WTC jumpers clips falling to 'Freefalling' or other matching soundtrack. After them came months of ranting about Daniel Pearl.

Facts are, there is around 10 seconds of actual gore relating to Pearl. Then only stillshot of his head held in hand. Reportedly camera went off during beheading, so that throat cutting or beheading sequence is more like frame-by-frame animation. Saying there's graphic beheading footage is an exaggeration. What shocked people and is actually visible in the propaganda video, was that it was one of earliest not anonymous victim visible on viral gory footage. It wasn't barely mentioned in the news. Some people referred to what such videos provide and nothing before could. The fear in the eyes, wandering sight, tension you know runs through another's body. Breaking voice, clear hesitation coming from being forced to say whatever they wanted him to. Trying to smile or at least keep their face knowing how you are gonna end up. Journalist probably would know it even more.

Summary how it begun:

LAST FRIDAY, the Boston Phoenix published a link to http://ProHosters.com, a Web-hosting company, which has made available the video released by the murderers of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

Deciding whether to link to the video from our home page was clear-cut. "This is the single most gruesome, horrible, despicable, and horrifying thing I’ve ever seen," Phoenix publisher Stephen Mindich wrote in an online note below the link. "If there is anything that should galvanize every non–Jew hater in the world — of whatever faith, or of no faith — against the perpetrators and supporters of those who committed this unspeakable murder, it should be viewing this video."

Some background: last week, the unedited video, portions of which were broadcast nationally by CBS news, surfaced on http://Ogrish.com, a customer of ProHosters. Shortly afterward, the FBI ordered http://Ogrish.com to take the video off its site. In an Associated Press report, FBI agent Sandra Carroll said that the FBI did so "out of consideration for the [Pearl] family."

Before video, there were few photos. They were sent to officials on 27th to 30th of January 2002 (different sources, different days):

https://i.watchpeopledie.tv/images/16841391112861419.webp

https://i.watchpeopledie.tv/images/16841391123338706.webp

https://i.watchpeopledie.tv/images/16841391128954296.webp

FBI also had problems with WTC content, which is quite funny, as someone claiming they're from FBI made a comment under one of posts. Then Ogrish published short news regarding recent IP logs. Apparently glad FBI's here and inviting to see more stuff. Early reactions on Pearl post-beheading video - as actually there's no beheading shown here due to skipping this moment while recording - that I've came across seems expectable. Main difference was people in 2002 not yet used to gore existing online. While I could find video hosted the same year, I couldn't find on http://archive.org Ogrish news from February 2002 (just from May 200, about removal). Archived multimedia list was from June 2002, just like first http://archive.org version of mentioned ProHosters video:

https://web.archive.org/web/20020603233719/http://prohosters.com/pearl/

Original comment said:

As stated in the current news reports http://Prohosters.com was contacted by officials of the FBI to remove a video from one of our customers sites. While we reserve our comments on the moral issues of this video we feel this was a breach of the first amendment of our constitution. Many people have asked us about the content of this video. So we have decided to stand behind our customer http://Ogrish.com and release the video. Daniel Pearl as a news reporter would have fought for his first amendment rights as we are for our customer.

On not-gore-enjoying side, it seems more concern was made over family views or general public views. Ted Hickman, the owner of ProHosters, said the FBI insisted on immediately taking video down and giving out identity of person running Ogrish. He felt like they intended to intimidate him, so video would be brought down without paperwork. What FBI's Newark office spokeswoman told public was vague and meant nothing apart there's investigation ongoing. It was unclear, because there was no legal reason to bring video down. A 1996 federal obscenity law couldn't be applied here, because video didn't 'appeal to the prurient interest' - beheading wasn't considered horny stuff. They ran out of arguments:

The FBI even tried to get the name of the creator of http://Ogrish.com out of Hickman, who told agents he’d comply only if they came back with a subpoena. He then contacted the American Civil Liberties Union, which in turn contacted the FBI. Since then, the FBI has stopped trying to suppress publication of the video, and ProHosters is linking to it from its home page with a letter from Hickman about his decision to air the video.

Here's the letter. https://web.archive.org/web/20020605191022/http://prohosters.com/pearl/press.htm

Video was online, and its influence was still mentioned in interviews (case had a follow up in 2020 and after, so it still is). Daniel and Mariane married in 1999. When Daniel was kidnapped and murdered, she was 5 or 6 months pregnant. Mariane gave interview in Oprah Winfrey Show and it appeared in October 2003. Here are photos of Daniel and Mariane, and their son Adam.

https://i.watchpeopledie.tv/images/16841391135551236.webp

https://i.watchpeopledie.tv/images/16841391146429598.webp

After nearly 30 second long part of the video was aired (not including graphic content, just the 'admitting' to being Jew etc.), this was Mariane and rest of family opinion:

But in a statement issued after the broadcast, Pearl's widow, Mariane, and his family, said that while Rather “attempts to rationalize the network's heartless decision to air this despicable terrorist propaganda video, it is beyond our comprehension that any mother, wife, father or sister should have to relive this horrific tragedy and watch their loved one being repeatedly terrorized.”

When interviewed by Oprah in 2003 stated she didn't see the full video and didn't intend to. She knew what was in it because dear friend described content to her, although sparing graphic details. They wanted Mariane to just know and accept reality. She claimed at first she wants Adam to only know his father personality, type of humour, in general: type of person he was. But also realized that when he grow up, he will have access to graphic content, and no matter if she wants to watch it or not - Adam should know his father was kidnapped, beheaded and terrorist propaganda video is out there.

Nick Berg in May 2004 sparked similar controversies. Pearl and Berg families met each other, and shared their quite unique experiences of their loved one being on one of first well-known gore videos online.


https://web.archive.org/web/20020923195648/http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52772,00.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20020615220106/https://bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/editorial/documents/02299081.htm

https://web.archive.org/web/20031001222839/http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,490640,00.html

https://aish.com/48907142/

https://www.oprah.com/omagazine/oprah-interviews-mariane-pearl/all

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Your detailed posts shed light on so many obscure videos of the past. I remember just seeing random videos like this with little explanation, and never imagined that decades later I'd get to read contemporary information like comments from those that originally posted/shared the content. It's like having these vague memories brought to life in full. Thank you for all of your investitive work. Your contributions to the site are amazing :marseyloveyou::marseyloveyou::marseyloveyou:

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Glad to hear that! I have more or less personal reasons to that digging. Archive.org has a plenty of content, you just go into the rabbithole when you find starting points. Speaking of contemporary... https://web.archive.org/web/20020725033057/http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/columns/lundstrom/story/2992803p-3874101c.html Here's 2002 article about the fact that silencing gore communities may mean silencing everyone else as a next step. Relatable nearly 21 years later, too. Plenty of Ogrish news: https://web.archive.org/web/20020609002053/http://ogrish.com/index.php?press

Any specific gore video you'd like to see described? One we didn't have here, and some known behedings are already described. This on Pearl's death is first investigated by FBI of this type (Bonsai Kittens and WTC don't count).

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The islamic video from '02 has fucking vine booms lmao

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I was in highschool when this happened. I hadn’t seen gore yet really. My grandfather watched this video (Daniel Pearl) and would tell me about it a lot. Looking back that’s fuckin weird to say to your teenage granddaughter. Anyway he would tell me that he watched it several times but couldn’t bring himself to put the sound on. I have never watched that video and never will for some reason, but obviously I’ve watched many other beheading videos.

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Definitely a weird thing to share with a grandchild haha... but maybe he just thought you'd be able to appreciate it? Being a teenager and online I mean.

Not the worst thing for a family member to share with you when you're younger!

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The picks go hard fr

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The topic, reading or writing?

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The pictures released before he was executed go quite hard

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were you even born yet when this happened lol.

great post by the way

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Yes, I was few years old. Early internet gore is fascinating, thanks for appreciation.

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you seen the nick berg execution?

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Of course ;] Not as a kid, if you were asking about it

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Great job!

I’ve been curious about this since seeing the Angelina Jolie movie “A Mighty Heart.”

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:#marseyreindeer:

Snapshots:

http://ProHosters.com:

http://Ogrish.com:

https://i.watchpeopledie.tv/images/16841408371871877.webp:

https://i.watchpeopledie.tv/images/16841408991636522.webp:

https://i.watchpeopledie.tv/images/16841408997038183.webp:

http://archive.org:

https://web.archive.org/web/20020603233719/http://prohosters.com/pearl/:

http://Prohosters.com:

https://web.archive.org/web/20020605191022/http://prohosters.com/pearl/press.htm:

https://i.watchpeopledie.tv/images/1684140849867569.webp:

https://i.watchpeopledie.tv/images/16841408516601007.webp:

https://web.archive.org/web/20020923195648/http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52772,00.html:

https://web.archive.org/web/20020615220106/https://bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/editorial/documents/02299081.htm:

https://web.archive.org/web/20031001222839/http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,490640,00.html:

https://aish.com/48907142/:

https://www.oprah.com/omagazine/oprah-interviews-mariane-pearl/all:

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wow that history is all super interesting!!! (it's not (i don't care) )

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Cool, if you wanna more facts to not care about, I'm just making spaghetti

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i thought toilet cleaners had their own food but i guess you're a bunch of slaves to america so it makes sense you eat globalized slop

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wOw yoU aRe sOooo cooL aNd edGy i bEt you Are ReAllY sMrt toooo

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Bro are these your sexual fantasies?

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no my sexual fantasy is being oskar dirlewanger in warsaw 44

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That's actually much hotter, tell me more :marseyhomofascist:

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so i enter the city and start killing people, and poles as well

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I don't care, I fantasize about Poles as Pole too, lol

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huh? whyd you feel the need to tell me you don't care? that second sentence would stand all on its own

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