Just to make things clear for some dumbasses, the "animal" flair is not animal abuse. It's animals abusing others. Don't post animal abuse here. 
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I've just wanted to remind you what I wrote here. https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/meta/post/34763/reminder-animal-abuse-is-banned-here/860157#context Don't post it anywhere on WPD, because it's illegal on WPD to host such content - AND YOUR MORAL VIEWS DON'T FUCKING MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO THIS DECISION
I wish that the legal reason behind this was known by both sides (leaving aside the other sides among the users). So, both "But why people torture ok and animal torture not ok???" and "It's sicker above my personal limits and it shouldn't be here because I said so insert moralstragging". Damn, users' moral views ON ANY SIDE aren't the reason for which this content is allowed or not here.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/48
Inb4 yes I know 'crush videos' mean something different, but it has a far wider meaning in US law:
Tl;dr. Stop being retarded and thinking that this is userbase moral views that is a reason for whatever decision about this content. This is simply legal risk for WPD to allow to post it.
Anyway, I'm still amazed by people not realizing that some users may intentionally break the rules. Is this an option so hard to imagine?
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What about videos where an animal gets harmed but not specifically abused? Because I always think that's stupid when I see that being reported but maybe it's actually correct.
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That's the grey zone, and IIRC they can't be posted separately for own sake. Even when it's an educational material, like testing the chemical weapons (it was given as an example in a convo I remember the 'nope' from). But that's about the admins' stance, I don't know what about US laws, will check the list of exceptions. Some educational or activism-related context was listed out as such. EDIT:
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Is it or is it not?
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Part (E) and (F) are extremely vague. If I’m being attacked and my only weapon is a snake to defend myself with, is that (E)?
If I’m euthanizing a rat and part of that euthanasia process includes the use of a shovel, is that part (F)?
Are those instances allowed on here?
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I assume that if WPD doesn't allow the (A) to (D) to be posted (even though some users would like to see such content, telling from the comments), then these further two exceptions aren't allowed to be posted, too.
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my smwart polish bb
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Jesus Christ. If you guys want a website where you can watch videos of animals getting tortured or killed, then go create your own website, because you’re in a tiny minority. Animals are totally innocent and defenseless. Humans have already done enough to them by needlessly hunting them just for sport so they can put their heads on a wall, and we’ve eradicated their ecosystems so that we kill off entire species daily.
There’s a reason why you’ll never see an animal get tortured or killed in Hollywood movies and it’s because nobody wants to see it.
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besides, the name of this site is watch people die, not watch animals die
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There are some fuckers who would like to see it- but thankfully they aren't here or they are such low hanging fruit that they pretty much just grunt at and about everything.
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It took me far to long to figure this out lmao. Very happy to hear it though. I literally avoided almost every animal tagged video untill I found out it's mainly animals getting there justice on humans, now it's one of my favourite flairs
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Animal abuse is strictly forbidden. Don't bring up the moralstrag arguments, nobody wants to hear them. It's forbidden due to United States law. If you don't like it, take it up with the fucking supreme court.
Again, the fact that anyone needs to make posts like these is baffling to me. Thank you OP.
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This isn't as clear actually because part of the community is not from the US and other countries do not have similar rules. I know the law here but I personally don't know the details about edge cases as in my country animal video distribution is not prosecuted at all just the act of animal abuse is prosecuted.
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It's not so much a lack of knowledge of US law, but rather a lack of the ability to read. One of the first few rules outlined on this site is "NO ANIMAL TORTURE". If a rule exists on a site like this, it exists for a good reason, not because people want to censor you.
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It's absolutely not clear and is an issue pretty often. I recently seen someone report a video as animal abuse where a guy hit another guy with a snake. This is not abuse directed at the snake and I don't know enough about snakes to make a judgement about the damage to said snake. A person outside of U.S. like me has no clue if that is considered animal abuse by U.S. law. There are also plenty of edge cases where it's actually very very relevant. The only topic that doesn't need clarification is where an animal gets tortured or mutilated because that is crystal clear.
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I'm gonna be blunt, you don't need to know anything about any animal to know that blunt force trauma is dangerous to them- much like it's dangerous to people. Using a living being as a weapon is undoubtedly likely to hurt it, that should be clear cut. By saying "well the snake wasn't the target of the abuse, so how is it clear?", you're ignoring some pretty basic logic that even apes can deduct.
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I'm gonna be blunt. That is irrelevant for the topic, you're extremely rude and you assume a lot. Other people have similar questions and if you don't want to talk about it shut the fuck up honestly. Nobody really asked for your opinion. It's a conversation that was already addressed way better by this https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/meta/post/36381/hanimal-is-not-animal-abuse/897882#context
You're actually actively making the situation way worse because it didn't clear up the issue and just makes it again a moralstrag argument that you say it isn't. I for example didn't give you any context and it's very hard to tell if the snake is actually even real or already dead. It's for me very hard to judge if it's just a stupid person like you reporting it or if it's actually truly against the law and therefor rules.
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I'm sorry if I came off or come off as standoffish or rude, but use common sense; if something seems suspect, let the mods know- that's the whole point.
The rules on the site clearly state animal torture or cruelty isn't allowed- real or not, if it looks like someone is actively abusing an animal, why even post it? If something seems like it's probably against the rules, common sense would dictate it's against the rules.
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My bad. The thing is it's not common sense as that common sense is based around a law and is not really that common outside of the US. Morals and viewpoints might differ significantly depending on the region. An animal being butchered for food is for example not against the US law and would be a absolutely fine video. A LOT of people here would not agree. I personally think the mods do a great job and should clarify and optimize the information around it even further therefore such a discussion has place. "if something seems suspect, let the mods know" and "rules on the site clearly state" is a contradiction for me if something is clearly stated it shouldn't seem suspect but be crystal clear otherwise it needs clarification.
"The rules on the site clearly state animal torture or cruelty isn't allowed- real or not." Ok what if I post a video of someone punching a plush monkey in social because by your words that would be clearly against the rules. It's common sense and even an ape should know that that even unreal animal abuse is against the rules even if not against the law. This is nonsense in my opinion and even if I don't post anything like that I clearly see an issue with such a viewpoint.
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You're getting far too pedantic and nitpicky, bringing up "what if" scenarios with plush animals- nobody in their right mind will look at a video of someone hitting a plush animal and say "confirmed animal abuser", and we both know that.
If you see something that looks like it breaks the rules, it probably is- I'm not sure how much more I can elaborate on that.
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I understand animal abuse videos is illegal, but what about videos where animals are hunting people and the person uses self defense against the animal?
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Yeah, I wondered about that too. And what about animals killing each other? What about hunting footage?
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thank you self appointed mod/admin
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I will make a separate comment soon, to provide information which is 100% valid and important + hurt feelings
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ouuuuuuuuuu the OP in trouble!!!!
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No trouble
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Sorry y'all, should've put this in meta. My bad.
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