On February 18, 2020, at 6:50AM, a high school girl in Kanagawa, Japan, livestreamed her suicide on Twitter by jumping in front of a train at Seya Station. The girl had experienced troubles with bullying, abuse from her father, no friends, and suffered from depression.
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Japan has a sky high suicide rate and is for a good reason. Working there especially for women is complete hell. Insane amount of studying to do in school as well which is needed for them to have a decent job to stay afloat.
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Japan as a society has a fake face on majority of the time, it hides pedophilic/ perverse intents under it as gropers and of you think of living solo without help from parents or a job, you fall victim to suicide
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agreed. I remember I was in Japan and I watched their local TV. There was a show where little girls would cosplay and MUCH older men (even in their 60s) would vote who they thought made them feel "excited".
The girls had to say seductive things to the men to get the points to win. Mind you, the girls were 14-17 years old.
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NPCS when you noclip to the other side of the map and they follow you in the most random direction ever.
Okay but seriously, my heart goes out to that girl, suicide is such a horrible thing to happen to anyone.
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Japan is a beautiful and amazing country on the outside but inside is a hell hole, With all the stuff that goes on their specifically women i would not be suprised if they do stuff like this, sucks that it happens though
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Japan is heavily filled with young teens commiting because of the society. I'm not an expert but it's definitely over romanticized.
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Just seen the recent one you posted.. It's so sad these children are killing themselves all over japan.
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It rly is sad, Japan isn't as amazing as it sounds
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My friend was just deployed over in japan awhile ago and he's now suicidal. That place literally drains the life out of you.
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how?
can you explain it?
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she was @ Minmin on twitter. and she was a huge fan of Shinsei Kamatechan (j-rock experimental band that wrote "Rorochan Suicide Livestream Show") and twitted about how much Shinsei helped her before the suicide.
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I was wondering if this was Minmin, thank you for the confirmation. Poor girl, hope she's in a better place now.
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Snapshots:
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ghostarchive.org (click to archive)
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now she's even uglier.
don't suicide, it's for losers.
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I mean in literal meaning yea, they are "losers" because they lose the only thing left for them
But the more I learn about depression I understand what they go through, and that just like you see people that go insane and you can't really blame them for what they do, these people are like them, people that need help, and I can assure you, the last thing they really care for is one more guy calling them names.
(I myself, think going through depression, while I will never take my own life (or hurt anyone) for my own reasons, I do care less about life every day that goes by)
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while i can have sympathy for their turmoil and pain, it's a deep disservice to the emotionally vulnerable to rationalize, contextualize, or give any sort of validity to their selfish, evil act. I don't want anyone to look at such a video and say "Oh, that must have been what she felt she had to do! the poor thing, it was her only way out! parents/school/bullies can be so cruel, we must learn from this suicide and protect other delicate precious people!" Because, that response is THE EXACT REASON people kill themselves: they think they will get the sympathy/attention they need or they will force people to realize how cruel they've been treated or they think it is a reasonable "only way out" response to whatever horror they are facing in their life.
Like school shooters, the only way to prevent suicides is to berate the evil, selfish actions of those who do it. call them names and make sure everyone knows how ugly they are, inside and out. If it saves just one life....
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This is complete ignorance.
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what do you think our response should be?
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To start I wouldn't presume to know what's right for all suicidals. It's serious enough that broad stroking the issue seems crazy. Let's start with some safe assumptions tho. They're already familiar with self loathing and shame. Plenty of it probably. I've never heard of someone being talked down from a ledge by being called an ugly selfish loser.
So my personal response would be to make a personal connection with the person. Give them something to tether to. Tell them I would care if they weren't here, and ask them to meet me for a coffee tomorrow and talk about whatever they want. Just hold on till then.
I'm not going to make assumptions about you, but I think you should ask yourself why you connected with your method and I would advise you be more cautious.
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with due respect, i think we are talking about two different things. I don't want to put words in your mouth, so correct me if I am wrong.
You are talking about how to relate to someone who is suicidal. I agree with you're angle: no one is talked down from a ledge by being called an ugly selfish loser.
My previous comment was talking about how we should relate to someone AFTER they've killed themselves. They should be criticized and ridiculed for everyone to see that nothing good comes from and there is no valid reason behind suicide.
My point is not to benefit the dead, it's to prevent future suicides by emphasizing what stupid choice it is, by using past perpetrators of suicide as poster children of "ugly selfish loser".
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I hear you now. I still think the route of kindness works better, emphasizing how sad it is and what a waste of life it is. It also comes from a place of honesty, which is always a bonus for our own mental health. I could be wrong but from what you're saying, you don't really have hate for these people.
Anyway I respect what you're saying. You have a point that romanticizing suicide can have disastrous effects. We've seen the fallout from certain teen focused television programs.
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yep. it's hard when love doesn't work.
i think you can understand why i compared suicide to school shooters.
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Depression does not mean school shooting.
I will always demand those who hurt others to be hurt in the same way, but those who want to take their lives AND ONLY their lives, those people that depression has eaten them, and given up, do you really think that it's a good idea to go and punish them? to go around the city encouraging them to take their own lives? and to treat them as kid murderers?
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what are you talking about? I'm talking about people who already killed themselves. now they're dead.
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meh, don't validate their bad excuses. would you really urge a person who "has nothing or nobody left, and just gave up" to kill themselves? If not, why give lip service to it after they've done it?
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Wemen are fucking assholes
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